Dzhelasi’s Art Passion Turned Career
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Dzhelasi fell in love with art from an early age and turned it into a career!
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Dzhelasi’s dad took her to work when she was young, and she loved seeing what the graphic artists at his job were doing. She got support from much of her family to help grow her passion into a career. Her sister helped her along with getting clients to draw for, and now is doing it full time.
Being a full-time artist has been a bit of a challenge that she has enjoyed, because she loves what she does. She is a single mother, and is currently working on her own apparel line.
Episode 24
Transcription
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this is the dreamers podcast where
dreamers shared their stories to inspire
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you
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now join host Joe Pardo as he interviews
a dreamer who’s living their dreams
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yeah
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welcome to the dreamers podcast I’m your
host Joe Pardo and today I’m
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interviewing Deza lassie Murray who is
living her dream through art and graphic
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design
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welcome to the show that Lassie hey
thanks for having me thank you for being
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a part of the show I really appreciate
you coming on
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why don’t we get started by giving our
audience a bit of your background
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well i’m a 31 year old mom graphic
designer and artist from New York I
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worked under the alias des Murray and
I’ve been doing so since about $MONTH
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2005 started off with virtual gaming
sites and move my way up to essentially
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making my own business and getting my
name out there freelance wise so what
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would you say inspires you freedom and
expression doing what i want i think
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that drawing helps me relieve any stress
is from the world and i’m finishing
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pieces me a sense of accomplishment the
fact that people like my work as an
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added bonus
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i’m glad that i have had the time to
manage something that I love and I can
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do as a career
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how did the stream of drawing come about
it’s pretty much my dad he drew and
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created a lot of artwork and things like
that he worked as a Pressman for a
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printing company so one day around maybe
fourth grader so i attended what was
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that take your daughter to work day and
he took me to the printing company but
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unfortunately he didn’t let me really
mess around with any of the machines
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because they were expensive and really
messy huh I didn’t really want to mess
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with them anyway because the ink was
very hard to take out of the clothes so
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he pretty much said for the time to pass
just sit here on this computer and
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occupy yourself and I saw some workers
that he still work with we’re doing some
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digital art on the computer and from
there it was like my first experience
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with being interested in art software in
digital art and design and things like
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that so it started from there and then
when i got home i press them like dad
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you have to get me a computer we have to
do this I want to do with the guys at
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your job does he’s like you don’t want
to do what I do and I’m like not really
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it’s too messy
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I want to do
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stuff that they’re doing on the computer
so it went from there he showed me some
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techniques that he used when he would do
his paintings and he taught me
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everything I don’t give me the basis and
then I just went from there
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so how was your dream of drawing and
becoming an artist received by your
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family members a lot of them didn’t
really like it I mean aside from my dad
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pushing me my mom thought it was cool
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sometimes she didn’t want me spending
all of my time drawing things and being
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in my own creative world she wanted me
she wanted to set me up to be
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accomplished in the real world and felt
that are really wasn’t a niche for me i
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guess it was harder for her and like my
grandparents to understand that there
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can be a living made by heart and I
wasn’t on the computer just on random
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sites not accomplishing anything so it
was hard for me to prove to them that
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doing this doing something that I loved
was going to be something that’s
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beneficial for my future I have three
younger sisters my sisters are cool with
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it they thought it was awesome
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oh you can draw stuff now draw me a
shirt or draw two for me and I’m like I
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can only draw certain style you can’t do
everything they want me to draw when
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things for them here and there and they
tell their friends and the different
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things it’s cool have a daughter my
daughter loves it she likes learning to
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draw stuff as well she thinks it’s cool
to show her friends like oh like this
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shirt my mom joy or things like that so
they accepted it but as far as my mom my
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grandparents their the world tough ones
that i had to convince so you mentioned
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about it becoming a full-on career and
that’s what it has become for you right
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okay yeah pretty much i freelance I
think it’s better for me because like I
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said before I like doing what I what I
want to do so I feel like it gives me a
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lot of freedom to just draw when I want
to draw things that I wanted to make my
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own style be my own person and i have a
friend in Hawaii who she’s like a sister
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to me she she draws things as well and I
can call her and we go back and forth as
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far as advice and pep talks and things
like that she teaches me her style and
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we go back and forth
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I
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I just pretty much have to want to get
my name out there and accept my style
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and what I did you actually walked right
into the next question which is what
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steps did you take to get started for me
to get started actually was into a lot
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of virtual gaming sites and I played a
lot of games online where you would have
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this online community where you raise a
virtual pet and you play games to take
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care of them and feed them and things
like that
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there was also a contest that they had
their and originally I wasn’t too
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confident with my art style or how i
drew but I decided why not give it a
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shot
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try contest see what happens and from
there actually placed pretty well in the
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contest people from the site started
contacting need to do little artwork for
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them and like John my pen enjoy this for
me enjoy that so from there I started
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getting my name out there people started
to know what I was recognized my art
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style and I played so many sites that
eventually the owners of the site
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started to contact me and ask for help
with join artwork for their sites like
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the avatars the icons the items things
that went into the site itself it
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initially started as just a hobby
something that took up my free time did
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take a lot of effort but i did for free
and gradually just turned into something
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that people started wanting to pay me
for because I didn’t have the time to do
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so much free artwork for people so they
tried it was pretty much like a
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competition they’re like oh we want you
to join i’m like i don’t know i don’t
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have time for it and then another person
to be like well if you do myself then I
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will pay you for it and I’m like wait I
can get paid for this stuff
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this is great it so if that’s what
started off pretty much with me going
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from a hobby to career and then I just
like it I’m like why am I gonna continue
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doing something for free that I might
love but can potentially make me income
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and decided to go from there
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started drawing for different sites
putting my name out there saying all I
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can draw i can do this and then people
just contacted me a lot of networking
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which is hard for me because I’m kind of
shy so it’s hard for me to just be like
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oh hey I just stuff let me do this
poster for you let me do this character
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for you and it just luckily I had a lot
of people that supported me in the car
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unity of online gaming where they just
like oh you have to go to this artist if
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you need something just go to her so I
lucked out in that said and the virtual
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gaming stuff progressed into my sister
Kris she’s like my PR person she will
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see something and somebody mentions
anything about artwork or graphic
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designer meeting anything then she’ll
tell them about me and she’ll to
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publicize me so from there just grew
into a bunch of people that I ended up
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not going that needed things and me
doing it for them that is really awesome
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when you can make that happen when you
make that transition from others a hobby
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that I do on the side into getting the
confidence that you need
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I mean get you really really need to
take that that step and not be afraid of
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rejection that all people don’t think
this is stupid
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I mean look at me stupid things are out
there that you know i was just watching
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last night somebody showed me that video
that girl burning her hair off with the
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curling iron and head and looked like a
pitches has like a ridiculous amount of
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views and have like 33 million at the
time and I’m like this is stupid why are
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people wasting their time it’s why am I
watching this I don’t know
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yeah i mean with that it was kind of
hard to break away from caring too much
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as to what people thought there’s always
going to be negative people or people
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that might not think that what you’re
doing is good or it’s not good enough
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but then you see stupid things like that
and you’re like okay well myself has to
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be good in the sense i mean it’s
actually productive and good versus the
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stupid things that they put online so
why not after what I just didn’t care
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and also think why not
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that’s something that you’re just gonna
have to do if you want to do something
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then just go out there and do it there’s
always going to be a quick critic you
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can’t satisfy everybody so you’re gonna
do stuff might as well do something that
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makes you happy and that you feel good
about that walks right into the next
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question which is where there any roblox
with getting started or later on down
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the line you coming you mentioned about
being shy and everything like that and
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and how did you overcome those well
besides the fact of me being shy and
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then not confident about my work time
was an issue I’m a single mom trying to
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find time between working and if i
didn’t have Commission’s trying to get
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an income or trying to get myself out
there so i can bring in potential
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clients was pretty hard for me
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I wasn’t really good at budgeting time
and i also decided to go to school and
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learn things for my craft and I could
benefit me
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so between all those things a roadblock
was definitely budgeting time it’s
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something that I learned while I was in
school where they pretty much like maybe
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you should write things down as a list
and I’m a competitive person so I’m like
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okay let’s list our good because then i
can write everything down that I need to
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and then I can cross them off and went
to cross them off I’m like yeah got it
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done so it motivates me to do more
things so if i don’t have a list i’m i’m
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probably yeah you always move this list
is something that helped me overcome
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that issue as far as confident that grew
over time the more I practice my artwork
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on my design style and the more clients
that I got the more people that came to
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me the confidence just built with the
craft the more that I felt comfortable
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with what i was doing and how I was
doing it and improving the confidence
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just soared have noticed that the more
you feel comfortable about things that
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you do the better and easier it is to
talk about it and get yourself out there
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so i would say to overcome it was
definitely practice a lot of practice
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and the people that surrounded me i was
lucky to have a a stable and positive
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group of people that were around me so
if i did feel down about something i can
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always go to them surrounding myself
with a lot of creative people as you can
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feed off of each other inspire each
other things like that so that was
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another way for me to overcome the
confidence issue yet the people you
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surround yourself with is so imperative
especially when you’re trying to do
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something that’s not have a nine-to-five
job
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yeah with that you have to understand so
if you don’t have a nine-to-five job
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then your income is it stable and it is
only coming to you with the effort that
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you’re putting in so it’s all about a
hustle and trying to keep yourself going
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keep yourself motivated because if you
don’t and you feel like you’re in a hole
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you’re definitely not going to get any
income and that’s gonna be a problem
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so in order for you to limit that make
sure that you keep motivating yourself
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keep yourself people that motivate you
do things that make you happy because
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I’m what I consider a temperamental
artists
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so from the bad mood chances are I won’t
want to draw or I’ll join it won’t look
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right I’ll start to nitpick it and be a
perfectionist i got over overachiever
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type of perfection is where I won’t be
happy with that stuff so I listen to
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music music helps me calm my nerves and
i justjust off and gradually overcome
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that issue so is there any parts of your
dream that haven’t quite worked out
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because I started off with retro gaming
i originally wanted to make my own
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virtual gaming site and I had the
artwork for it and had staff but the
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issue if that was I didn’t know enough
programming language for it so it pretty
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much fell through and it’s nice i’m
still working on i’m always tryna make
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things better get out there more
practice with my confidence levels but
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try not to be as shy meeting new people
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I want to do a t-shirt line and apparel
line which is something that I’m working
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on now I have some friends that do that
as well but that’s all in due time the
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dreams that I have for myself and for my
craft I try not to say that although
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they’re not accomplished or they didn’t
work out
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I’m just feeling like I’m always working
towards them not really making anything
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and absolutely like I can’t do it but
just always getting a lot of ideas and
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doing a lot of different things and
keeping things when moving forward as
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much as possible even small steps four
steps towards what you’re doing you know
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that every day it’s gonna take at least
one step yes long as I’m moving forward
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then I’m in the right direction if I
stay still and don’t do anything that
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I’m definitely not gonna get anything
accomplished so I try to do is make
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things as possible even if it’s little
things just to get some professionally
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so if you were stranded on a deserted
island with your family what three
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things would you want to have with you
this question i was thinking about for a
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while okay
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the three things how i’m so indecisive
sometimes my family’s already there so i
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guess i have a good structures for us to
continuing my artwork that can join the
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sand or something if if worse comes to
worse so I would say my art supplies
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which include my computer and my tab
marriage
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public that would definitely need that
and if I have my computer then i would
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need a strong and working Wi-Fi
connection also want to be doing
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anything and the third one I would have
to see chocolate chocolate
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it keeps me going let’s go with
chocolate that sounds good
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so my supplies a strong and working
Wi-Fi connection and chocolate and I’m
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actually gay awesome so what are your
dreams for the future look like
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I want to get my own office because
right now i’m working out from home
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which is easy and saves me money but I
do want to start my own design firm with
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a friend of mine that I met when we were
in school so we’re working on that and
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like i said before the the clothing line
and apparel stuff is is coming soon as
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well just trying to debate as far as to
what target audience i’m going to be
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going for that do a lot of kpop things
and and kdrama which is korean dramas in
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a cream music that I’m really into right
now so I’m probably gonna start off with
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that demographic but I don’t want to
just do that I don’t want to make sure
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that i have something that stable and
open enough to hit other targets as well
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so and decide that this practicing and
trying to get my art style to where I
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like it
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keeping up with competitors trying to
get better every day that’s that’s my
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future
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that’s my plan Senate so do you have any
last thoughts to share with the audience
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well hopefully I can inspire some
feature artist we got us what people
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think you really just have to do what
you like and do what makes you feel good
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practice as cliche as it sounds
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does make perfect that was hard for me
to accept but it is true the road can be
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frustrating at times regardless or
whatever whatever you decide to do so
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try not to compare yourself negatively
to other people if you’re going to
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compare yourself do it as positively as
possible make sure that it helps you
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strive a little bit harder for your goal
and it’s not discouraging not everyone
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can draw the same no don’t be upset or
quit use this as motivation to find your
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unique style and your way of doing
things
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if you plan on doing this professionally
then
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you definitely need to make sure that
you have a thick skin for it
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get yourself out there as much as
possible using social networking going
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on different art sites like deviantart
is one that I use know your audience
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know your company your competition
figure out what you want to do and what
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you’re best at and make it work to your
advantage
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don’t undersell your Worth and sometimes
when you freelance it’s hard to find a
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balance because some people that don’t
draw why don’t want to work with an
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artist they tend not to want to pay for
the services or it’s hard to find a
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medium between the two of what they feel
is what you are is worth and what you
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know your art is worth so hopefully that
they can realize and appreciate the time
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and effort that we do put into our
pieces and enjoy them as well that’s it
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so is there any websites you’d like to
share with everybody
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yeah most of my stuff can be found on
www.smsflick.com it’s the the h ii la si
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or you can reach me on facebook on my
fanpage at facebook.com slash deci . art
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and twitter is twitter.com / deci pretty
much you can google deci I’m everywhere
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well thank you so much for coming on the
show I really appreciate it thank you
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again for having me with one definitely
you’re welcome to come back anytime
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ok let me know i’ll be here thank you
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