Leaving the Gaming Industry for Touringplans.com, Guy Selga
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After working in the gaming industry, in quality assurance for many years Guy decided to make a bold career change!
Connect with Guy Selga!
With 5 years under his belt working at Activision, Guy realized he was totally burnt out with the video game industry. On a whim, he seen that Touringplans.com was looking for a person to work on researching Disneyland full-time.
Quickly, Guy found himself working for TouringPlans.com and traveling into Disneyland (his office, as he calls it) on a daily basis. He discusses the changes that he needed to make to adjust to working from home (which he loves).
Guy Selga is a friend of mine that I met through the Disney community a couple years back. When he told me he would be working for TouringPlans, I was extremely excited for him! And now, I currently write for TouringPlans.com, you can see the first post I wrote here.
Episode 44
Transcription
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this is the dreamers podcast where
dreamers shared their stories to inspire
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you
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now join host Joe Pardo as he interviews
a dreamer who is living their dreams
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yeah
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welcome to the dreamers podcast I’m your
host Joe Pardo and today I’m
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interviewing guys salga who is living
history through a career change
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welcome to show guy hey thanks for
having me it’s a the pleasure’s all mine
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i’m so glad that we were able to connect
from coast to coast here
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yeah it’s good to talk to you again it’s
actually been a while since we’ve hurt
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each other’s voices it has its probably
means probably been almost a year
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yeah except that I think that one time I
don’t know if you were on for that last
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time we got together but let’s start by
giving the audience some background
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about yourself
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well I currently work for touring plans
. com helping people plan their disney
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vacations but before that I worked in
the Quality Assurance industry for about
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nine years i started at Activision when
i was $DAY i think was 19 years old
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actually I was my second job i worked at
blockbuster video for a year before that
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and so I was I was always been the video
games so I really wanted to work in the
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video game industry and I was a young
and dumb enough to think that that would
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be a viable thing that I could keep
running for a while I worked at vision
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for five years got burnt out by the
constant over time at that company so i
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left for another smaller studio that I
ended up working like three times as
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much overtime then I went back to
activision after year and stayed there
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for another couple years and then at the
end of that I was fully burnt out of the
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video game industry and I said okay this
time I’m done for real and so a
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recruiter actually contacted me to work
at directv and I worked in their quality
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assurance department for about two years
and then I realized that I was
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completely done with quality assurance
at some point and then the position
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opened up at touring plans . com a
service that i had used previously
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several times to plan my disney world
vacations I live in California so yeah i
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just applied thinking hey i might as
well apply this is completely different
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the pay is less but I can make it work
but I just need a complete change of
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pace
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anyway so I’m just going to try it out
what kind of games did you get the test
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that Activision when I started it was
still the tony hawk era so i worked on
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several Tony Hawk video games the
skateboarding games i think i worked on
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maybe five or six of those and then the
era of like guitar hero came in so i
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think i worked on guitar hero 3
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p for over a year straight just on that
game only and then mixed into that were
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several call of duties and a bunch of
those DreamWorks kids games like over
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the edge stuff like that
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what exactly got you fed up with the
Quality Assurance industry in the game
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industry especially that the overtime is
constant
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you’re almost the length of the game
development you’re gonna be working
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overtime so you know working six or
seven days a week 12 hours a day gets
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really tiring the last game i ever
worked on actually was a call of duty
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black ops and for the last six months we
worked six days a week 12 hours a day
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and i worked on night shift so i worked
six am-6 p.m. to six a.m. every day so
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that was really killing me and put last
time it was done I never wanted to see
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another call of duty game again and I
never wanted to test games again and so
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far so good that was 2010 and so it’s
together 14 now so I don’t know we’ll
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see how long that lasts
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it’s crazy to think that was that long
ago I mean less when I play was modern
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warfare two
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yeah so what would you say inspires you
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ok so what inspires me now is different
than what an inspired me before so with
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this current job like it’s it’s kind of
on me yeah like I have a boss and I have
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co-workers and everything that I have to
answer to but i’m out here in California
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I’m the only employee in California so
whatever work I need to do it’s on me
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so basically money inspire speak to me
to be honest with you but just just to
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set myself up for the future to try to
make this work long-term because like
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yeah it’s kind of a fun silly little job
it started out as but like I want to
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build it into something more in
something meaningful meaningful that I
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can actually work a long time on and you
know retire someday because you know in
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the in the game industry in the position
I was in you know I worked with over
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1,500 employees like throughout my
career
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they were just come and go so much so
the fact that I even lasted as long as i
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did is is unusual and you know i think
the typical time of the length of time
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people spend in the game industry is
five years so I I even beat that but
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there’s there’s not a lot of areas to
grow into so what inspires me now is too
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I do to make something of a passion
which is Disney and Disney parks and
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anything disney related everybody
listens to the show knows my passion for
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disney that’s how we met actually
exactly yeah so how did your dream come
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about i will like i said i was kind of
fed up with my previous career and I had
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this opportunity to kind of start over
and which it maybe isn’t the smartest
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thing because when you know when you
have nine years in a certain field it’s
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probably not smart to just throw it all
away and go try something completely
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different
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you know I figured like I think I was 28
when I switched career so I figured you
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know I I was still young enough to do it
and I could always probably go back
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somewhere in the game industry if I
needed to
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well that is a good safety net to be
able to go back to where you came from
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if if you had to but I’m sure you didn’t
want to head the way you’re talking
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about it
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yeah I don’t want to i want to make this
work and you know like i said it’s a
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passion and what we do at touring plans
helping people plan their vacations and
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get the most out of their vacations get
the biggest bang for their buck is
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really rewarding and we get a lot of
mail coming back to us saying how much
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we help them and that’s that’s a really
like it’s really fulfilling thing to
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hear because you know like I think
everyone’s early disney vacations were
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probably not the best you know you may
be argued with your family or didn’t get
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to do what you wanted to do so or maybe
you blew your money on some some crappy
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food that you didn’t like or some
experience or something
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so just to make sure that people don’t
make those same mistakes is pretty cool
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before we move on to the next question
where did your disney passion come from
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so my my grandma and my mom I was raised
by my grandma but my grandma and my mom
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were both really into the the parks when
I was growing up and when they were
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growing up so when I think it was three
years old my mom took me for the first
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time and I remember even you know I was
still very young like I i was i could
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tell I was hooked for life like just
something about the parks just they were
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so they’re so endearing and
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you can change into me and like not even
really the rides just like the
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architecture just real nerdy stuff
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yeah and then just growing up where my
mom and my grandma felt the same way
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about the parks that I did they do they
just passed passed that passion down to
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me so yeah my my mom would would take me
every week and you know it’s like most
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parents they they just take their kids
to to disneyland or whatever because
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they they feel like they have to because
it’s the kid thing but like I think my
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mom went because she wanted to go and it
was like okay I guess I’ll take my kid
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along so yeah I’ve been been going quite
a long time and loving it and that’s
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yeah thanks thanks mom and thanks
grandma
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but so how was your dream received by
your family when you told them hey I’m
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quitting much my whole career and I’m
gonna go do this thing where I block
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around disneyland all day everyday take
notes and send it back to some guide a
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house in the East Coast that lives in
north north carolina so okay I guess
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we’ll start off with with my mom because
I she really didn’t understand what I
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what I did have my old job anyway I mean
she knew I tested games and she kind of
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got the basic idea but you know it’s
it’s not it’s not like a it’s not a
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normal career even testing games and
testing satellite boxes like I did for a
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little bit so uh she she was kind of
she’s kinda weird at first about it but
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then I explained what it was and what
the service did and how I’d used it
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before and she kind of warmed up to it
and she knew it was and once I told her
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like oh I can really put my passion to
work and make somebody out of it i think
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she kind of she quickly turned around to
kind of see that it was a good thing
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spouses are just always like whatever
makes you happy dear and that’s kind of
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what my wife was like I could see a
little she was a little worried because
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the the money wasn’t quite the same but
you know I kind of told her that it
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eventually we could we could make it
work and yeah we have to change the
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things but it wouldn’t be too bad and
plus I I would be happier doing doing
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this instead so she was fine with it
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well you can’t put a price on happiness
yeah well that too and then like working
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from home is amazing which is what i do
i don’t have an office to go to I’m
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I go to guess Disneyland is my office
but my my base of operations is my house
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and that is like it I don’t know I hear
some people talk about how working from
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home isn’t all that great but I’m
guessing that’s not true that it is
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awesome
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well that’s something I’ve been finding
out
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yeah so what steps did you take to get
started
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well so was it maybe like a year or two
before I even knew that the touring
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plans position would open i started my
my personal disney blog angry AAP kaam I
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just kind of posted i call it Disney to
start a blog so i would just post old
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scans of pictures and just little disney
trinkets that I had from over the years
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and you know old disney items that my
grandma had passed down to me so I
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started that blog and then I switched my
twitter / from just kind of whatever
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thoughts I had to only Disney so I was
like my time made it a point to make to
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tweet only about disney so it’s kind of
just building that that kind of personal
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brand on on Twitter and then when the
torrents thing rolled around they ask
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for like writing samples and in just a
general resume and so from our i sent my
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resume and then for my writing sample i
just i just kind of couldn’t go to my
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blog and check it out
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and because my Twitter and switch over
to to disney i had gotten to know
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Scarlett who worked for 20 points that
time as the as the East Coast researcher
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/ walt disney world and so we had became
friends and so when the position opens I
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remember when they tweeted about it i
just kind of half half we jokingly
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responded with with the with the tree
and i said i want this and I remember
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scarlet like message me and she was like
are you serious because we can like get
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this ball rolling and I was like yeah
let’s see where this goes and so yeah I
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sent my resume and and I I did an
interview and it came down to be me and
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a couple other people and I I got it and
I became the full-time disneyland
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researcher before that they didn’t have
anyone as a full-time researcher for
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disneyland they just had a i think a
couple of part-timers but even then I
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don’t think they had been around for a
while but i think they they decided to
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fully commit to
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disneyland and grow that product and I
think so far we run it by quite a bit
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since i’ve started so that’s pretty
happy about that i think i think it’s
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gotten better not to toot my own horn i
think it’s gotten better since i joined
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on you know I don’t quite remember who
said it but it’s not bragging if it’s
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the truth
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one of those boxers I think said it
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yeah let’s fast forward a little bit
when you start going to the parks what
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steps did you take to get started and
changing your whole career path in your
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life basically
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well the the first thing I had to do was
like I’m not to be honest I’m not a
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strong writer which is kind of which is
kind of funny considering I write mostly
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is what I do for my job now like I write
for the book and I right for our blog
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and I write our little alright reviews
ever sections for our website so i had
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to I had to kind of change the way i was
writing things like I had to had to kind
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of match the tone that touring plans has
it has kind of a very specific tone that
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I try to match but i still try to have
my own personality in it so i had to
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change that because before I was just
kind of like really goofy and sarcastic
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in my own personal writing and then I
had to change the way I toward the parks
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before i started for touring plans I
never went solo to the parks at all but
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then for work I had to go completely
solo and yeah so what I would I do in
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the parks I actually I just enter wait
times and I i do whatever whatever the
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stats team needs me to do whether that’s
you know writing and writing something
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over and over or making loops in a
certain land or counting how many people
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walk through a walkway at a time so i
just had to learn all the little tricks
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that we do to to get the numbers that we
that we predict on our site now for the
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crowd pattern for the for the wait times
in the grand the crowd numbers starting
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when you first decided to contact
touring plans what roblox did you hit
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making that transition because I mean to
me I think it’s great that you took the
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initiative to just throw it out there
had even half jokingly and
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and just make it happen as far as I’m
just gonna say hey I want this and you
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got the ball rolling in here you are
many years even doing in there will be
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two years
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oh yeah it’s two years this month so
yeah ok just ya that affects really the
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main road block it was actually pretty
easy switching surprisingly the main
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road block was really fitting into a
team of people that had been so
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established already for so many years
and I guess that’s true for any business
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you get in but yeah the the company is
very small
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I think there’s 12 of us or something
everyone had been working together for
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quite a while so just to kind of get in
and you know find my own little groove
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and just to try not to look like a fool
basically to everyone else you know and
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it also just being being on your own
even though like i said i have a boss
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that I have to answer to you know being
on my own is a is quite different after
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you know having layers and layers of
middle managers to answer to in the game
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industry and in the other jobs i work
too
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I just managing my own time was very
different also because when i worked at
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Activision it was very structured like
you want to break at a certain time and
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you took lunch at a certain time but a
with this i just have to i just have to
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i’m on my own and I have to just get
everything done
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how did you overcome those well the that
the team is very helpful and and
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eventually you just kind of I think with
like any job eventually you just start
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to feel more comfortable and you start
to speak up more and you know give your
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ideas and just hope for the best but
it’s just keep on keepin on it you know
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don’t because I I think like back when I
worked in the game industry and we see a
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lot of new you guys come in and they
would just get so intimidated by
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everyone and so that’s what I kept
thinking back to just like being a new
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guy and not being intimidated by all
these strong personalities so working in
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disneyland everyday you gotta have at
least a couple funny stories funny
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things that you see happened in the
parks yeah I’m nothing i can’t think of
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anything specific but I just see a lot
of money interaction
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things with with kids and their parents
you know and you know a big thing I see
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is all i get to the park early a lot
within the first couple hours of the day
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and I’ll see families standing in the
middle of the walkway and there are you
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need to chit arguing with each other and
screaming at each other and it’s like
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dude you’re you’re an hour into this you
have like 12 hours left you need to get
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it together pull off to the side and
just like pressure reset you know I see
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like a lot of cool little things that I
that I miss when I was just a normal
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visitor like the like for example like
the dapper Dan’s riding around on their
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four-person bicycle which i think is
like the coolest thing like i never saw
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that before I i started working for
touring plans but it’s so random i think
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they do it once a week they told me
stuff like that you know I I will say
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one funny thing I i saw in in epcot when
i was there one time even though i’m i
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i’m at disneyland guy moat vast majority
of the time i was there a decent i was
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out there at epcot one time and I saw
this this little kid walking with his
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family and look at is like mom where are
we going and the mom said we’re gonna go
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see the country’s consumer world
showcase that’s where they were headed
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and little kids like I don’t want to see
no countries and he was like so pissed
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off that he was had to go see these
these boring countries and I was like I
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would love to go see world showcase so
if you’re stranded on a deserted island
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with your family what three things would
you want to have with you
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oh man I i would i would need twitter is
that possible is that too is that to
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that of a good answer
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no I mean I most people say cellphones
higher natural batteries
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yeah I don’t even care about having I
get you I guess that would be necessary
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for twitter but Twitter is my big thing
i’m addicted to twitter 100 / said I’m
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on it all the hey I’m unashamed how much
I love twitter so i guess i guess really
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a cell phone because I want a cellphone
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I want twitter and i want you to because
i watched a ton of youtube I make a ton
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of videos for youtube so yeah Twitter
YouTube cellphone so what are your
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dreams for the future look like I’m
hoping to maybe get my own kind of
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website or book going
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I kind of started that with my with my
personal blog angry AP dot-com and my
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youtube channel because we have a
touring plans youtube channel that I put
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a lot of videos up of the disneyland and
disney world and all that and that’s
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been going pretty well but i’m hoping in
the future that I can have it
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I you know it’s probably unrealistic but
you know this is a dream right
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you know it’s funny my dream growing up
was to own an arcade i love arcade games
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i have I own several and yeah that was
my dream growing up was to own an arcade
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unfortunately that is not a a realistic
dream anymore because our kids aren’t
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exactly a big thing it is that there’s a
couple so maybe maybe having my own
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website and YouTube channel that i live
off of is not a realistic tree be there
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because of the complete saturation and
who knows you know the the way online
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advertising is that might that might not
be a sustainable thing either in the
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future but yeah that’s my dream is to is
to be my own my own thing
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well it’s not that hard to believe any
plenty of people do it every single day
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man
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yeah and I mean you already showed that
you have the drive to or stupidity
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depending yes let’s jump out of one
industry that you’ve done for seven
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years where you’re I mean at that point
you’re probably only a couple years away
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from being you know master of what you
do you’ll be happy concerns i mean your
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own mind you probably were really good
at what you did but I’m saying in the
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industry wise like you know 10 15 years
I mean that that’s like mastering it
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yeah and you know people ask me all the
time if i ever get sick of disneyland
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and I i looked yesterday actually out on
the disneyland annual passholder website
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has the counter for how many times you
visited and my counter is at nine o nine
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so i have visited 909 times sent on my
current annual pass which was from 2008
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so i started in $MONTH 21 2012 so before
that is it maybe once a week but yeah
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whatever in the parks it’s just like
it’s it’s all business to me like I
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don’t even see it as I think of
enjoyment but when i go with friends or
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my life
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then I see it as a placement where I can
relax unwind eat a crazy amount of food
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and write a couple rides you know go up
and down Main Street omnibus all the
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things that I like to do that I can’t
exactly do during work it’s great that
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you’re able to separate the two of them
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yeah hopefully that that last I don’t
know I for now it does likewise even
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though I’ve been so many times i just i
can still separated so is there any last
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thoughts you’d like to share
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I would just say like if you’re if
you’re thinking about changing careers
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you know way way the pluses and minuses
right talk it over with your your spouse
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or significant other see if it works out
for you
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uh I was in kind of a unique position to
where I could make it work but it’s
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obviously not realistic for everybody
i’m not gonna lie and be like follow
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your dreams and you you can achieve
anything it’d be smart about it is what
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is my is my advice like I don’t like to
consider myself a logical person I I
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wait the pluses and minuses of
everything before I do them i don’t
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really do anything spur the moment
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yeah I just decide if it’s actually
logical if you want to change your
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career before you do it but then if you
do it it’s pretty it’s pretty rewarding
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they say no risk no reward right yeah
exactly so any Twitter Facebook websites
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you like the plug I mean you already
mentioned your you’re angry app or yeah
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angry at your airy yeah you’re angry AP
. com website that’s my blog my disney
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blog i guess i’ll plug my YouTube page
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youtube.com / g saga and my twitter at
guys salga GUI SE LGA I treated there
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all day most the time in the parks
tweeting about I don’t know whatever I
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tweet about i think today I was talking
about probably the Omnibus I tweet about
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the Omnibus a lot it’s my favorite
Disney Land attraction so for food I
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tweet a lot about food
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disney food and non Disney food now
being in the parks everyday have you
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found that you have gained any weight
from eating all that food
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well so it’s hard to tell because I i
walk so many miles a day like I walk
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between 10 and 18 miles a day so I think
that offsets any bad food I eat and that
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you know I don’t really know
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that poorly like a lot of salad and a
lot of you know I don’t need the really
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bad stuff like I’m not slamming Monte
Cristo’s in my face for like double
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bacon cheeseburgers r in my face every
day or anything so I try to keep it in
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check a little bit but man it’s tough
because when you walk by a trocar and
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you get like that with smell it’s like
intoxicating sometimes yeah it’d be easy
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to fall into that trap
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no i don’t i would ya like I don’t like
turkey legs or I’d have a problem with
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that too because that’s all you smell in
most parts of the park
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well if that was the case I’d hoped that
you’d have good health insurance to
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touring plans
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yeah well thank you so much for coming
on the show guy i really appreciate it
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yeah thanks for having me on this was a
lot of fun yeah I’d like to have you on
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again at some point maybe six months a
year and follow up and see how you’re
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making out yeah awesome hopefully you
didn’t fall back into the trap of
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quality assurance at that point
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well i mean if i did i guess i could
talk about the transition going back in
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yeah definitely fakih well let’s hope
that you don’t ya fingers crossed
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well take care i think a lot thank you
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