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The Unofficial Guide’s Disney Dish Podcast with Jim Hill

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Jim Hill is an award-winning entertainment writer who lives in New Boston, NH. Over the past 30 years, he has interviewed hundreds of veterans of the animation & themed entertainment industry and written extensively about The Walt Disney Company.

Jim is currently working on a behind-the-scene history of the development & construction of Disneyland. For his more immediate musings on movies, TV shows, books and theme parks, please check out his blog, Jim Hill Media.

Jim, in this interview, talks about how he got his start with his Disney blogging, as well as writing in general. He also discusses the origins of how Jim Hill Media came about. The stories that Jim shares are rich with Disney history, but ties it nicely into his own history.

It was so great to get to know the guy behind Jim Hill Media, as well as the awesome Disney stories on The Unofficial Guide’s Disney Dish Podcast. This episode wound up being much longer than either of us intended it to be. This episode of Dreamers Podcast is rich with great stories about Disney, as well as Jim’s past and his advice for people getting started on their career path!

As mentioned in the beginning of the episode, the income report for July will be up within a week or so which you can check out here.

Adventurtorium Live is a live video streaming concert to help raise money for Give Kids the World! The event starts August 2nd at 7pm EST! Check Adventurtorium.com for more details!

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Episode 41

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hey dreamers i hope everyone had a great
week with an even better weekend ahead

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so July is now over and we’re getting
closer to the end of the summer which is

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really sad because i really enjoy this
summer couple quick things i want to

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share the financial report for july will
be available in about a week or so you

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can check those out as well as the
current download stats for the show how

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to dream backhoe slashing come tomorrow
Saturday August second at 7pm i will be

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live streaming video from a venture
torium live i invite you all to check

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out adventure tourism com download for
free or stream for free as well as

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donate to give kids the world and even
buy t-shirts and by a limited-edition

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dual CD set of adventure tutorial I will
be performing a live version of my DJ

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mix inspired by Pixar’s Up with disney
music mashups done live on two

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turntables again tomorrow night

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august second 7pm there will be a live
video feed of me performing adventure

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tutorial you can check it out at
adventure torium . com check the show

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notes for a link i hope everyone has a
magical weekend

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take care

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and of course i’m here with Joe on his
show and thank you for inviting me this

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was really nice of you to let me talk
for way too long you are going to edit

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this right like with aksar and a chisel
and get it down to three or four hours

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is that the plan now

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oh I apologize to all you people okay
cannot just she you got things that are

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right laundry cooking gonna just make
the bed i owe you all an hour-and-a-half

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For Your Lives I’m really sorry this is
the dreamers podcast where dreamers

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shared their stories to inspire you

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now join host Joe Pardo as he interviews
a dreamer who is living their dreams

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ok

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welcome to the dreamers podcast I’m your
host Joe Pardo and today I’m

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interviewing Jim Hill who is living his
dream through writing about theme parks

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& animation welcome to show Jim major
how you don’t doing wonderful i myself

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um well just provided the house is in
struck by lightning and I don’t die in a

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horrible flood I’m good

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no yeah as Joe and I are recording this
there’s this giant storm covering the

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eastern seaboard effect- we’re lucky we
thought under the background with you

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right

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yeah so so i’m at least on higher ground
so gonna just go get you get your in the

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basement you could be the first to go
Joe and I said this he ok

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jesse is supposed to fall off into the
water at some point isn’t it Oh to be

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nice to jersey i’m nancy has family down
there and you know whatever we go back

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and forth the Florida always driving
through New Jersey and i love the name

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sir hoboken stockist in a wee Hawkin and
just you know when you live up where I

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live where everything’s a borough you
know it’s a boxborough northborough

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southborough middleboro it’s like you
guys couldn’t come up with any names you

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know we look in jersey and just like
secaucus I mean there’s a name so you

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know it’s funny you say i actually live
in a clarksboro next to a paulsboro next

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to swedesboro next to it gives borrow
you gotta wonder did they get like a

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break get adjusted like you know where
we’ve got these five letters left over

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all Gators put something in front of it
you know it’s a well well let’s get

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started by giving some background about
yourself

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uh who well this is going to be boring
arm I again I’m that guy that guy lives

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in New Hampshire of kind of backed into
writing about disney basically I was in

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the military was a disney to eat from
way back i mean again again . to date

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myself but is a fifty-five-year-old I
remember when there were only three

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channels and one of them was NBC and

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on Sunday night that was when you sat
down

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730 or thereabouts and watch kindly old
uncle Walt who introduced the wonderful

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world of color and every so often he do
a show about the theme parks or

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Imagineering or animation you know more
often than not it was a big dog that was

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lost in the forest and somehow made its
way home but every so often maybe these

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great Imagineering base shows are great
animation chosen that just fascinated me

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so i began chasing disney information
about the disney company in early early

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age I in fact I remember must have been
71 72 the very first disney history

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works uh were richard chicles the Disney
version which is really kind of a nasty

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book it was clear even as a 10 11 12
year old reading the thing Richard

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didn’t really like the walt disney
company and you know just wrote and then

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most negative possible terms or the
other book was was actually the Disney

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films it was Leonard Maltin gotta
remember was about 10-15 years ago

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Leonard was hosting a talk at the
Philadelphia films was actually

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interviewing Roy Disney at the you know
they’re worried is he talking about his

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career and at the end of the
presentation you know so can the entire

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dizzy and community lines up to get
autographs with Roy or get their picture

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taken and that sort of thing and I’m the
one slob going over to Leonard sitting

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there by the piano alone that bring out
this by mafia are beaten up cuz like i

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have the first edition of this book like
I read this and say she’s like this is

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cool and adjust everybody else has the
paperbacks and I had the heart back from

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way way back but again if that’s what
you had to do back then nobody in this

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pre-internet days and you think some
books and magazines and newspapers that

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you actually have to read and

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she sound the info and then from there
are going to jump ahead to the early

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eighties I end up in the military I’m a
journalist because the nice thing about

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journalists is they don’t tend to places
where things blow up you know you mean

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you go there after they’d blown up and
all i got a blue up you know but you if

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you’re lucky you’re not there when
they’re actually shooting at you so I

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spent four years in the army and while I
was there my friend I’d gone to the

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Defense Information college with i ended
up on the west coast and i want to say

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29 palms which is a military base on the
west coast and this is this is 83 and

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donald duck had just turned 50 and the
commander of 29 palms was this complete

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publicity hog he told he loved seeing
his face in the paper he loved you know

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just deep wanted pictures you wanted
stories about himself and he shows up

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one day at the pr artisans like Donald
Duck is 50 years old and everyone kind

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of links Adam goes okay and did make
cartoons during World War Two and my

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friend Marjorie ver who works at the
office that well I don’t know that for

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sure but I know this idiot massachusetts
i could call who maybe would have

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information about this

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hang on so she gets on the phone she
calls me and it’s yes Donald directed

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several cartoons during world war two
you know sergeant tuck and we’re going

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to various different names and she goes
back to her commander says yes then he

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goes he ever retire from the military
and called me back as a no I don’t think

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so but hang on i know dave smith so I
called the disney archives and Dave goes

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through all his papers from nope never
tart

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so this its base commander seriously if
this is his big idea he’s gonna hold a

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retirement ceremony for Donald Duck
alright and again just keeping my folks

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this is your tax dollars at work

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alright he sets up he calls the disney
company they loved this idea they go

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down to the closet they pull out every
duck costume that’s ever existed in the

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history of man so here we doing Louis
Daisy would pick on Drake uncle scrooge

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they’re all common all right and they’re
coming to 29 palms and get in not only

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that but in vintage 1940s cars and you
know the disney creates this this

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uniform for Donald that go

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I guess he’s still private at this point
and the base on the other hand assembles

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a pageant

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ok we’re talking about fifteen hundred
soldiers pass in review

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we’re talking full military band you
know color guard the works alright again

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and you paid for this

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alright and it all came down to his
picture that wound up in the paper of

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the general smiling into the camera as
he hands Donald in his world war two

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uniformed his retirement certificate and
it says buck sergeant . because of

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course they promoted in both are led by
the service my friend writes a story to

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go with the photograph and it gets great
play on the west coast and she sends me

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a copy of the article she sends me an
eight-by-ten of the photo and I read

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article and it’s great it’s fun and fuck
with the photos killer and I call

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Marjorie back and say look if I ask nice
can i get all use your photo credit your

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name to it became right refers to this
article because i’d love to this from my

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book based newspaper because i think
it’s funny as help and she says now

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absolutely you helped get with the
research and do what you want but the do

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what difference was my version get
picked up by the AP wire service in

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World War why hers did well in the west
coast but suddenly I’m in Britain them

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in Germany am everywhere and I get this
call from disney and the saccade we

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loved her article that was really funny
and very interesting well research and

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by the way were holding the 30th
anniversary of disneyland and

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we were wondering if you’d like to come
out and cover that and it’s like oh sure

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you know and that’s kind of how it
started

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that was a bizarre event I mean it was
they had a 30 hour long party so the

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park was open from like six o’clock at
night till that day or so later six

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o’clock in the morning I remember
distinctly they really let us do things

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we should not have been allowed to do i
can actually stood on the roofs of Main

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Street USA and look down at all of the
people running back and forth and there

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was a lot of really rotten plywood up
there I could have wound up in the

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Emporium real easy

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also they let us climb all over the the
Main Street Electrical Parade they were

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parked backstage between Main Street and
tomorrow land and I this was about the

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same time that return to house the movie
had come out and I was one of the only

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people on the planet who really like to
return to oz so they had tik-tok to the

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army the Royal Army of Oz the little
rascal I there and you know my god that

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must be the one from the film when I
leaned down and I look and it’s like

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it’s got the plaques it’s like you turn
this one for the brain and you turn this

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one for his action and you know so I had
that I had to try i turn the key and it

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came off in my hand and about this
moment that Disney security camera on

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the corner I jumped off the floor and
into the president so somewhere down in

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the basement I still have to tick tock
ski and it’s not one of my nightmares

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that some night and tik-tok is
eventually going to find music where’s

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Mikey but knowing that that’s the thing
that was the event where I got to meet a

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lot of the disney legends who would come
out who worked in the park and I got to

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interview them and they like that i
actually knew who they were and what

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they done and they would say the next
time in California want to come to the

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house you know do things like I got to
go to market Alice Davis’s house in fact

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that was with my ex Michelle mark was
kind of a prankster you go into his

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studio and go to sit down in a chair and
you know he’d be oh by the way that’s

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waltz chair and you know everybody for
some reason we just jumped out of the

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chair because that you know i got that
you know it’s like I said this has Walt

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aspirin in it but yeah he should great
stories about attractions that he worked

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on and

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year after year to year we know of
talking with people interviewing people

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and am introducing me to other folks
it’s just it’s kind of mushrooms and

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blossom since then and and now these
days i have my own website gmail media

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is alright for the Huffington Post and
so it that’s where it really got strange

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when i started working for huffpost
suddenly i went from somebody who worked

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basically in the Disney blogosphere and
people liked what I did to suddenly it

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was like oh could you talk about our
movie can adjust this whole notion of

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because again i get to talk to the huge
Huffington Post audience as opposed to

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the small did the blogosphere audience
and so the joke make as i get a much

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nicer class of people saying no now
adjust this whole notion of but at the

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same time you get to help I mean I just
right now for example Glen Keane has

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left the walt disney company and is
doing you might have actually seen this

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prop online that is private passion
project that he’s done for Google+ duet

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this is the the thing that’s actually
you’re going to be able to sort of

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design animation that’s the first piece
of classically drawn hand-drawn

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animation that’s being done for a
handheld device you know it’s this is a

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very different concept of moviemaking I
mean the notion is behold it directly in

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front of you you have this amazing piece
of animation but if you move it to

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either side there’s actually pieces of
animation that key off of that I mean

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the whole notion of you’re surrounded by
animation and at the same time they’re

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telling this wonderful story and the end
this is actually a passion project for

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Glenn Glenn is actually working with his
son Max who you know for those of you

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who who love Tarzan and cars and sort of
skateboarding his way through the trees

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that’s max that’s Glen got that idea by
watching his son skateboard in the

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driveway and wouldn’t it be cool if
Tarzan did that

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meanwhile if you saw tangled

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love the you know for example the little
baby girl version of Rapunzel that’s his

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granddaughter you know that you know
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Rapunzel after the granddaughter in fact
cleanse daughter Claire was one of the

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art directors entangled so they’re all
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piece of animation and and where I come
in is I’m the one who gets to write the

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article that helps to sort of raise
awareness of it and what’s really cool

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is this with this wonderful opportunity
coming up in a week or so we’re disney’s

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finally putting Tarzan out on blu-ray
and i reached the Clinton said hey we’ve

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got the great story about you know you
watching your son skateboard and why

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don’t we tell that story is a way to say
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together on this film I think honestly
that’s kind of what I’m doing now I used

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to do a lot of disney history i used to
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now I just feel like I’ve kind of
mutated into this position of like well

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how can I help

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for example i was just contacted by a
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disney online fan community and it was
just one of these things where he was

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interviewing me to get some stories in
the same time that long you know you

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should probably be reaching out to the
theme park press people they do a lot of

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disney titles these days and i’m sure
that they would help you know or get

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this sounds like a book they be
interested in and contact them tell them

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I told you you know the total reach out
and if there’s anything else I can do to

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help open the doors again I wouldn’t
have gotten where I am today wouldn’t be

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able to do what I’m doing now if a lot
of people whether the disney legends are

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people working on animated films or that
sort of thing hadn’t been nice Africa

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okay fine we’ll kill i’ll listen to the
fat man’s questions and they like the

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articles that I wrote and they in turn
introduced me to their friends or open

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held open doors for me so I feel that’s
really part of my job to pay it back get

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a whole notion of if somebody comes and
asked me for information i share if

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somebody you know needs help

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introduction or door held open I field
that’s part of my gig as well it’s

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really kind of fun is my

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own daughter Alice has started doing
what i do now and in fact she we were

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just talking about this off mic that she
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premiere for JJ and did a great job and
she’s actually headed to comic-con next

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week and going to be covering that for
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writes I guess she also has the gift for
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they open up and tell great stories
always that’s a really long winded

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answer we still have time to record at
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done that one question ended the show
tonight everybody so the high that

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hopefully the answer to many of my
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oh okay sorry sorry okay back up the
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i I don’t know all of all of my heroes
are writers John Steinbeck Neil Simon

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gene Shepard are you know Larry Gelbart
you know people who can not only inform

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and entertain can make you laugh

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the one thing that stands out
differently from the stuff i do then a

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lot of people do online about disney
theme parks or animations i’m always in

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it for the stories i’m always in it for
if I can make you laugh and I can make

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you think i can for example I just I
just interviewed the guys who doing

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planes Fire and Rescue and there was
this wonderful moment out of the

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interview where they were talking about
you know you ever watch when a plane is

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dropping chemicals in a fire you know
that that weird sort of read crap that

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comes out the back it has a technical
name but the people the area

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firefighters the way they refer to it
it’s either mud or slurry and what it is

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is you know it you deliberately dropped
in front of the fire and consider

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crickets kind of the salt bay stuff that
that stops the fire from spreading it

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creates artificial chemical barrier and
I’m talking with Paul Gerard who is the

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creative director for DisneyToon Studios
he says so i’m at the helmet Ryan air

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attack Base in California is actually
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riverside california literally just down
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with a disney media campuses

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says he knows I couldn’t help myself so
i cant got reached out and I touch the

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stuff and it feels like snot all right
and it’s like one of these things and I

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know it’s not because i have an
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alright and so he said I made the
mistake of mentioning it to the other

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animators and artists who would come
along in this field trip that they

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actually went to the base of the good
design the end of the characters and

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based on the actual vehicles and also
intercepted look at the base this is

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this stuff feels like snot and so the
animators to a man went really can’t

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touch it and it was just this whole
notion of that animators in their heart

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of hearts are really just big kids you
know I mean that’s one of the reasons

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that you get that sense of fun and joy
that comes through really good animation

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because they’ve kept the kitchen live in
them and just the whole notion of here

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is this this group of supposed grown-ups
when somebody says hey this feels like

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snot it’s like oh I gotta touch that I
just I i love stories like that i love

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something humanizes people that makes
the person who makes the animated film

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or makes your favorite movie or makes
your favorite attraction relatable

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I mean makes them sound like a person
not a press release but yeah I mean that

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that’s when I i love about writing if
you can do that if you can bring people

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sort of behind the curtain and talk
about their favorite movie in a way that

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surprises them you know for example
frozen dinner that the whole notion of

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two years before that movie hit theaters
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were sisters

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I mean think about that they had labored
for years where the ice queen was this

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kind of comic villain in fact relatively
recent version of this where the idea

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was that Elsa or the ice queen was
either going to be voiced by megan

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mullally who you may know from will &
grace played the Karen character was

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really obnoxious or Bette Midler you
know the whole note of this big brassy

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showgirl and in an entirely different
you know think about what an entirely

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different movie that would have been
that kind nice sweet in a dealing with

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it was somebody just at disney drew the
strong of the two of them standing back

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to back and sort of looking sisterly and
somebody’s like oh my god sisters

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wouldn’t that be bizarre and this whole
movie grows out of one drawing and even

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then you know just two years out like
that’s good that’s great okay thats in

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theaters november 2001 third 13 it and
everybody hard charges at it just the

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notion of they did it they actually
pulled it off on that impossible

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schedule that affects every movie they
were smart enough to bring Kirsten Bobby

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Lopez in to do the music and it all
became this huge phenomena that i will

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tell you flat-out they didn’t know what
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Nate and I were invited down to was
screening in New York we were the first

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civilians to get to see frozen you know
and we’re in the world’s tiniest

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screening room I swear there’s like 15
16 seats it’s it’s on Fifth Avenue in

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New York and fifty first and fifth i
think and we’re sitting in an audience

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full of people with suits and ties and
looking very severe and they start the

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movie nobody laughs nobody applauds
nobody says anything the movie ends and

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needs like wow we kind of enjoy that why
is everyone so quiet it turns out we’re

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in a room full of agents and they’re
watching the movie all they care about

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is how their client came across in fact
that you remember i was leaving the

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woman standing by the door ran the
president what did you think and this

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woman who represented both Idina Menzel
and Kristen Bell dings I think its

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service my clients very well like what
did you like the movie i think it serves

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my clients very well to three days later
I’m in LA and they’re doing the long

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lead media event so finally I end up you
know that everybody gets a chance to

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talk to everybody so i finally end up
sitting down with chris buck and

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generally the two co-directors of this
and actually leaned in close because I’m

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the only one of the all the other
members the first have only seen 20

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minutes of smoke they’ve only seen and
they only showed us action scenes i mean

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the the snow guy chasing after and then
christoph and

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I think you the one song they showed us
was let go but everything else is action

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and comedy and musical what musical you
are a mi this isn’t a musical but they

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leaned in close because I’m the only one
who seems like it work is it okay is it

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good and they didn’t know that means
they’re literally you know there’s six

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away two weeks away from that this point
being released in theaters and they

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didn’t know what they had you know that
would you please tell us it’s good so my

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god is it good and so good

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oh wow ok we work we were worried
because you you work on something like

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that for so long and you’re so close to
it you don’t know how people are gonna

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respond

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which I guess we could discuss mother
was wanted at this point Joe or you

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could move to another topic

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okay what’s the next question

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well well what would you say inspires
you what inspires me is getting

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information out when somebody hands me a
good story or I’m able to connect dots

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mean for example they would that there
was a story i wrote once called disney’s

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long long road to ours and it was one of
the more popular things I ever wrote for

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the web but it was one of these things
where people committed wow that’s a

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great story it’s like well good I’m glad
you liked it took 15 years I mean it

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took a long time to pull all of those
stories together in the little bits and

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pieces that people had told me over time
and just sort of the string them all

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together and and come up with a cohesive
whole that told you about how Walt back

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in the nineteen thirties you know did
actually pursue the rights to the wizard

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of oz’ not only to find out that Samuel
Goldwyn had them and then when they

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became available MGM snatched but the
reason I’m James snatch them is because

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know why did just come out it was making
more money than God and it’s like

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suddenly seems like all I want one of
those and so it’s like all right so we

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could turns into his advisors into a
musical The Return to Oz and the thing

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that is he was going to do there and
that was actually produced by Gary Kurtz

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but was directed by walter murch was the
gentleman who did all of the sound

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editing i want to say or the editing
editing for star wars and disney just

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wanted somebody associated with Star
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he did a great job but it was a tark
weird movie that it took a couple of

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decades for people to find it and like
it but yeah I mean need to get back to

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it that sort of stuff excites me that to
get a story out there or to step into a

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situation where people think is one
thing is really another and you have to

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sort of apply the lessons of history and
go-go not made for example everyone’s

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right now kind of reading about the subs
for disneyland and they’re coming back

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to the 60th anniversary but how are they
going to stay after that and and the

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hard reality is that the substance they
open in 59 been an operational nightmare

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I mean they were back then they were
powered by diesel and you know they

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always gave off these horrible fumes and
in order to make the water clear enough

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for people to look out to the portholes
and actually see the show scenes that’s

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things chlorinated up the yin-yang and
so that means your beautifully colored

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coral after six to eight months fades
away and likewise the strings that held

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the fish into place corrode and snap and
the fish float away so it was one of

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these things where every year they had
to shut it down for prolonged rehab and

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repaint and so when it closed in the
late nineties there are a lot of people

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in disney like God thank God that right
is gone away but it turns out that John

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Lasseter who worked at the park in the
sixties loved it and there was this

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thing called finding nemo that they
wanted to put in the parks and you know

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so they brought it back and I want to
say 2007 but it still has a lot of the

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problems that had back in 59 it’s got
low capacity it’s a maintenance

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nightmare and so I if your subs fan i
would suggest seeing them next year

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during disneyland 60th because I’m not
entirely convinced what was everything

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that’s planned for tomorrow and what
would be star wars ation of that side of

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the park that the subs are going to
survive that they need a lot of room for

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what they’re planning to do fruit star
wars in the parks and it’s entirely

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possible this the subs will fall victim

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to a higher capacity attraction

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let’s celebrate star wars so you want to
find Nemo you better look for him soon

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that’s i’m saying so you are talking
about twenty leagues under the sea right

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now no this is the the disneyland
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the ones for florida the 20,000 Leagues
Under the Sea of course that again same

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thing that they shut that down and i
want to say 94 for a quote unquote

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temporary rehab and then two years later
basically admitted now we’re closed and

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that of course eventually became new
fantasyland though there was this

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wonderful little moment where for a time
there was going to be where new

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fantasyland is now the whole aerials you
know the bells village are gonna be our

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guest restaurant that was going to be
disney’s villain village there was this

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great idea that basically they’d be the
sort of weird scary gate in every

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morning it would open and the villains
could come out of where Disney kept him

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locked up at night because you know
again you want to keep an eye on these

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guys and so if you went down into the
village there would be it wasn’t Gaston

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tavern but it was forgetting the villain
they had it built around but there was a

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nurse Allah spinner there was an
internal you was the puppeteer from

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bullies from bullies sort of restaurant
tavern kind of a dark scary place where

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you could go to eat with the villains
would hang out in fact there was this

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great idea that they actually tried to
revive with gas stones turns out they

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didn’t accommodate space for this

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it was supposed to be this great show
that would happen every day at five

388
00:28:58,179 –> 00:29:01,960
o’clock if you were down by strombolis
and eventually again they wanted to

389
00:29:01,960 –> 00:29:05,980
revive this idea for get stones and you
start to notice that from different

390
00:29:05,980 –> 00:29:10,450
sides of the park here comes captain
hook and here comes Maleficent and here

391
00:29:10,450 –> 00:29:15,130
comes the old hag from you know Snow
White and they’d all meet up at the bar

392
00:29:15,130 –> 00:29:19,630
and they kind of Chris fallen and they’d
order a drink and they would proceed

393
00:29:19,630 –> 00:29:24,540
I almost had her I swear to God I had
her you know like the Apple

394
00:29:24,540 –> 00:29:28,649
those stupid Wars and just the notion of
these that evidently was supposed to

395
00:29:28,650 –> 00:29:33,510
build into this great musical number
about how the villains almost succeeded

396
00:29:33,510 –> 00:29:36,870
but they’re going to petitioners up and
tomorrow they’re gonna go out again and

397
00:29:36,870 –> 00:29:41,879
try to defeat these stupid princes and
that kid in the green thing that flow

398
00:29:41,880 –> 00:29:46,620
and you know and it was this great idea
it’s just I keep hoping that that

399
00:29:46,620 –> 00:29:50,850
bubbles up again in fact that’s the
other thing of I think that’s important

400
00:29:50,850 –> 00:29:55,860
my job is it i’ll hear about this stuff
will hear about people getting various

401
00:29:55,860 –> 00:30:01,919
ideas and the kind of the problem with
Imagineering right now is it’s it’s not

402
00:30:01,920 –> 00:30:06,660
got a lot of institutional memory is a
lot of newer people are younger people

403
00:30:06,660 –> 00:30:10,830
have risen up through the ranks but they
don’t know you know they don’t know

404
00:30:10,830 –> 00:30:13,470
they’re in history and it’s just one of
those things where it’s like why don’t

405
00:30:13,470 –> 00:30:18,120
you guys revisit that villain idea like
what villain idea go to files go pull

406
00:30:18,120 –> 00:30:22,260
the files and sure enough to pull the
files and this thing’s like the villain

407
00:30:22,260 –> 00:30:26,700
mountain theme park attraction I’d that
was actually supposed to be built this

408
00:30:26,700 –> 00:30:31,800
kind of kid off of the fact that splash
around huge lines and so the belief

409
00:30:31,800 –> 00:30:34,200
within disney’s like while we need on
the form right

410
00:30:34,200 –> 00:30:38,370
and meanwhile we have 20,000 Leagues
balloon just sitting empty and wouldn’t

411
00:30:38,370 –> 00:30:44,129
it be cool if you know maybe we could do
a flume right into that and then

412
00:30:44,130 –> 00:30:47,520
somebody was saying well within the
village and it’s like what if we did a

413
00:30:47,520 –> 00:30:54,180
ride that that had all of these villains
in it and again I just I got lucky one

414
00:30:54,180 –> 00:30:58,470
of my friends who work for the company
for a number of years like this idea so

415
00:30:58,470 –> 00:31:03,480
much that when he was leaving disney he
spent his last afternoon at at

416
00:31:03,480 –> 00:31:07,980
Imagineering color xeroxing all of the
concept art so I’ve seen it I’ve seen

417
00:31:07,980 –> 00:31:14,100
the art for the davillon mountain and it
it had a really killer gimmick the whole

418
00:31:14,100 –> 00:31:18,419
notion is it’s a standard flume ride in
fact you do that classic scene that you

419
00:31:18,420 –> 00:31:23,910
doing every flume ride when they have to
get you up to the top of unity chunk of

420
00:31:23,910 –> 00:31:27,130
the show scene when you start to begin
your descent down the mountain

421
00:31:27,130 –> 00:31:32,830
and in this room you’re in with
militiamen and so she turns and sees you

422
00:31:32,830 –> 00:31:36,460
and you can actually see what your boat
is supposed to go in the next room and

423
00:31:36,460 –> 00:31:40,330
even enough disney theme park rides into
okay so I’m gonna try off i’m at the top

424
00:31:40,330 –> 00:31:43,240
that’s the next one we’re going to go
and that’s where i dropped out of its

425
00:31:43,240 –> 00:31:44,170
like so

426
00:31:44,170 –> 00:31:50,200
ok i’m comfortable like know what
happens is Maleficent waves her staff a

427
00:31:50,200 –> 00:31:55,270
whole blows in the wall next you and
your your flume vehicle now sort of

428
00:31:55,270 –> 00:32:00,700
heels over in this direction and fall
through this hole in the wall and you

429
00:32:00,700 –> 00:32:04,780
know you you dive down straight down to
the bottom of the building out of this

430
00:32:04,780 –> 00:32:08,980
show soon as you’re diving you’re going
in between merciless tentacles because

431
00:32:08,980 –> 00:32:12,490
she’s trying to grab you and stop you
and you end up at the bottom and you’re

432
00:32:12,490 –> 00:32:17,470
surrounded by flames and suddenly hear
the sound of a fire extinguisher in the

433
00:32:17,470 –> 00:32:22,330
flame set to go out and as the clouds
clear its Hades from Hercules with the

434
00:32:22,330 –> 00:32:26,20
fire extinguishers like i’m a tease her
the dead how you doing

435
00:32:26,20 –> 00:32:29,830
and that’s the sort of write it was
gonna be it was this really funny ride

436
00:32:29,830 –> 00:32:33,490
that played with your knowledge of the
villains and also played with your

437
00:32:33,490 –> 00:32:37,60
knowledge of how theme park attractions
work i mean the whole notion of wait a

438
00:32:37,60 –> 00:32:40,480
minute that’s where i’m supposed to be
going well you ain’t going there and

439
00:32:40,480 –> 00:32:42,400
again the finale of the ride

440
00:32:42,400 –> 00:32:46,150
I don’t know how they would have pulled
it off but you finally you get to the

441
00:32:46,150 –> 00:32:51,280
very top of the mountain for the big
splash down and it’s only as you enter

442
00:32:51,280 –> 00:32:58,990
the room you realize that you’re
basically in between Chernabog hands and

443
00:32:58,990 –> 00:33:03,940
he wakes up as you are there you know in
the room in his presence and hands start

444
00:33:03,940 –> 00:33:09,40
to reach toward you to grab the boat and
it’s just at that precise second we’re

445
00:33:09,40 –> 00:33:12,129
gonna get you that you go fall down the
outside thing but again killer

446
00:33:12,130 –> 00:33:16,750
attraction the arts there they could
turn key on this thing tomorrow

447
00:33:16,750 –> 00:33:22,360
it’s designed its planned but nobody
remembers it except me because I got to

448
00:33:22,360 –> 00:33:28,000
see the art and Justin Jorgensen’s
living rooms so graphic not the name any

449
00:33:28,000 –> 00:33:29,80
names or anything

450
00:33:29,80 –> 00:33:31,960
not the name any names but if you’re
looking for with the art is going to

451
00:33:31,960 –> 00:33:37,690
justins out well originally how was your
dream of writing received by your family

452
00:33:37,690 –> 00:33:43,29
members I come from a family of teachers
so there was a lot of pressure to become

453
00:33:43,29 –> 00:33:46,720
a teacher because the whole notion was
like look if you want a seriously right

454
00:33:46,720 –> 00:33:50,169
you could be an English teacher and you
have your summers off and you could

455
00:33:50,169 –> 00:33:56,169
right then and I almost almost almost
went that route until I graduated high

456
00:33:56,169 –> 00:34:01,179
school I was starting to go to college
in framingham state in Massachusetts

457
00:34:01,179 –> 00:34:03,159
when huh

458
00:34:03,159 –> 00:34:08,20
this is a hard story to tell but
basically my favorite English teacher on

459
00:34:08,20 –> 00:34:12,790
the planet an amazing guy you know
introduce me to people like Robert

460
00:34:12,790 –> 00:34:18,730
Benchley and Dorothy Parker I mean
writers i love to this day and you know

461
00:34:18,730 –> 00:34:22,179
I enjoy this guy so much during high
school I must have taken three and four

462
00:34:22,179 –> 00:34:27,460
different classes with an amazing guy
and in fact I so enjoyed working with

463
00:34:27,460 –> 00:34:32,139
him i became the co-editor the the
yearbook because he was the guy was in

464
00:34:32,139 –> 00:34:36,460
charge of the yearbook and and the girl
who lived on my street was the other

465
00:34:36,460 –> 00:34:41,319
co-editor of the yearbook really funny
very talented young lady and I just

466
00:34:41,319 –> 00:34:44,649
figured this is a sort of English
teacher i want to be i mean this is the

467
00:34:44,649 –> 00:34:49,960
guy who gets people excited about the
writers and you know and is really in

468
00:34:49,960 –> 00:34:53,889
touch with the students and you know
this this is what I want to emulate and

469
00:34:53,889 –> 00:34:59,500
so september-october november that year
I get a call from again my co-editor of

470
00:34:59,500 –> 00:35:03,10
the yearbook who kind of pulls me aside
and design want you to be the first to

471
00:35:03,10 –> 00:35:05,140
know but I’m pregnant

472
00:35:05,140 –> 00:35:11,980
oh that’s kind of a surprise and who’s
the father and it’s the English teacher

473
00:35:11,980 –> 00:35:16,960
and it was one of these things where
it’s like you know this was the guy who

474
00:35:16,960 –> 00:35:21,490
are was modeling my path after all right
it’s like that’s that’s the search

475
00:35:21,490 –> 00:35:26,950
feature want to be and he gets my best
friend from high school pregnant and it

476
00:35:26,950 –> 00:35:30,189
don’t get me wrong i’m not i’m not
saying he’s a bad guy in fact that met

477
00:35:30,190 –> 00:35:36,430
him since he’s still a wonderful person
and i’m still friendly with the young

478
00:35:36,430 –> 00:35:41,20
lady in fact the daughter is she’s such
a great kid such a great now we’re great

479
00:35:41,20 –> 00:35:44,829
adult now but it was one of these wake
up moments where it’s like if I follow

480
00:35:44,829 –> 00:35:48,230
that path you know in 20 years i’m going
to be making this

481
00:35:48,230 –> 00:35:53,359
I’m exact mistakes i’m going to end up
being that same English teacher who gets

482
00:35:53,359 –> 00:35:59,90
forward or takes a stupid risk and and
this was actually again this is 77 where

483
00:35:59,90 –> 00:36:02,780
you were allowed to resign you didn’t
end up on fox news

484
00:36:02,780 –> 00:36:08,150
alright you know and uh huh that’s what
kind of spurred me to maybe I shouldn’t

485
00:36:08,150 –> 00:36:12,590
teach you know the interesting thing is
having again a family of teachers now

486
00:36:12,590 –> 00:36:17,180
all i hear my brothers and sister
talking about is how tough it is to

487
00:36:17,180 –> 00:36:22,40
teach now where you have things like No
Child Left Behind where you’re suddenly

488
00:36:22,40 –> 00:36:26,779
in this situation where you aren’t
really teaching kids to teach your

489
00:36:26,780 –> 00:36:31,369
teaching kids how to take a test so they
can then prove that they’ve been taught

490
00:36:31,369 –> 00:36:35,390
and just teaching has become something
different over the last couple of

491
00:36:35,390 –> 00:36:39,560
decades so and waste away i’m glad i
went in this direction was a tougher

492
00:36:39,560 –> 00:36:44,270
path I mean the thing of writing is that
particularly when I was coming up you

493
00:36:44,270 –> 00:36:49,460
chase explodes steady gig like working
for a newspaper because that was you

494
00:36:49,460 –> 00:36:53,390
know a steady paycheck but in the end
there was good money we made magazines

495
00:36:53,390 –> 00:36:58,40
but you had to send something often hope
and pray it was what they were looking

496
00:36:58,40 –> 00:37:02,750
forward that the editor liked you and
then wait for the check to come back so

497
00:37:02,750 –> 00:37:07,400
it was tough at the same time try
different types of writing for a couple

498
00:37:07,400 –> 00:37:12,170
years there tried my hand at
screenwriting and that I came scarily

499
00:37:12,170 –> 00:37:17,660
close to actually making that work i
actually got a script optioned for a

500
00:37:17,660 –> 00:37:22,399
high dimension movie that disney was
going to try to make with the folks at

501
00:37:22,400 –> 00:37:28,40
keystone which are the people who make
all of the Air Bud movies for disney and

502
00:37:28,40 –> 00:37:32,690
get the option the script I got a very
nice check and but again it was kind of

503
00:37:32,690 –> 00:37:37,400
conditional on and as soon as we see how
well hocus-pocus does at the box office

504
00:37:37,910 –> 00:37:41,720
we’re going to make a decision about how
to mention and I know everybody loves

505
00:37:41,720 –> 00:37:48,410
hocus-pocus now but when it came out in
94 93 did not make a whole lot of money

506
00:37:48,410 –> 00:37:54,140
you know the haunted mansion just stop
there but i also wrote a sample script

507
00:37:54,140 –> 00:37:59,150
for a version of the adventurer’s club
is a sitcom that was going to be shot

508
00:37:59,770 –> 00:38:04,30
in orlando in the disney channel I mean
that made that very high up it was very

509
00:38:04,30 –> 00:38:09,220
strange because they were excited about
the idea of being able to use say epcot

510
00:38:09,220 –> 00:38:12,520
as sort of a setting that they could
send the adventurers off and they could

511
00:38:12,520 –> 00:38:17,50
go to China or Africa or that sort of
thing and i wrote a sample script in

512
00:38:17,50 –> 00:38:21,550
treatment for like six or seven episodes
after that it was kind of interesting

513
00:38:21,550 –> 00:38:25,720
that this was the disney channel trying
to decide what it wanted to be when it

514
00:38:25,720 –> 00:38:31,540
grew up and they hope it’s like we have
this adventurer’s club thing from jim

515
00:38:31,540 –> 00:38:37,300
hill and we have this script called
lizzie mcguire what should we do

516
00:38:37,300 –> 00:38:42,640
and you know I think we all know the end
of that story you know Lizzie McGuire

517
00:38:42,640 –> 00:38:49,569
began miley cyrus the hannah montana you
know and and now we’re in you know

518
00:38:49,570 –> 00:38:53,170
places like mighty med or dog with a
blog you know that they were just

519
00:38:53,170 –> 00:38:56,860
discovering that they wanted to do
sitcoms for kids and that’s where they

520
00:38:56,860 –> 00:39:00,880
are now so I mean that’s interesting to
wonder what would have happened if I’d

521
00:39:00,880 –> 00:39:05,770
gone that route but I honestly I always
feel bad for people who spend entirely

522
00:39:05,770 –> 00:39:08,440
too much time staring the rearview
mirror

523
00:39:08,440 –> 00:39:12,970
yeah it was an opportunity would have
been cool if that happened but because

524
00:39:12,970 –> 00:39:17,830
it didn’t happen other equally fun
opportunities came along and right now

525
00:39:17,830 –> 00:39:22,120
as i was mentioning earlier it’s just
you know you never know what the day is

526
00:39:22,120 –> 00:39:25,630
going to bring I mean just this morning
up getting coffee and here comes the

527
00:39:25,630 –> 00:39:30,700
fedex truck rumbling up the driveway and
they drop off a box full of big hero 6

528
00:39:30,700 –> 00:39:36,9
stuff and I’m just no talking with the
folks at walt disney studios about what

529
00:39:36,10 –> 00:39:40,240
are the story opportunities here you
know who can I talk to and and it’s

530
00:39:40,240 –> 00:39:43,359
interesting because I’ve actually
interviewed a bunch of these guys before

531
00:39:43,360 –> 00:39:51,520
and really Connolly the producer of this
is the producer winnie-the-pooh likewise

532
00:39:51,520 –> 00:39:53,960
Don Hall is one of the directors on that
note

533
00:39:53,960 –> 00:39:57,530
talk with all of them before the nice
thing is when you’re interviewing

534
00:39:57,530 –> 00:40:01,910
somebody when you interviewed previously
and if it’s gone well you know you can

535
00:40:01,910 –> 00:40:06,890
get through that five minutes of well
how’s your kids very quickly and and

536
00:40:06,890 –> 00:40:10,190
just get to the actual meat of the
conversation and and hopefully get some

537
00:40:10,190 –> 00:40:13,849
cool stories but but that’s that again
that’s what I’m doing now

538
00:40:13,849 –> 00:40:18,890
so how is all this disney Fame received
by your friend whoever wrote the

539
00:40:18,890 –> 00:40:23,29
original article that you got her
permission to use to write your article

540
00:40:23,30 –> 00:40:31,820
to become mr. Jim Hill honestly the
became meeting mr. Jamil that took 30

541
00:40:31,820 –> 00:40:36,800
years and to be honest Marjorie went on
to have a great career in really for

542
00:40:36,800 –> 00:40:40,940
real writing you know I mean that he
wrote the magazines newspapers she’s

543
00:40:40,940 –> 00:40:46,520
very happy with her life now arm and but
it at the same time you know I never

544
00:40:46,520 –> 00:40:50,89
planned on writing for the web i mean i
thought i was in magazine newspaper guy

545
00:40:50,89 –> 00:40:53,599
and I gotta call in I want to say

546
00:40:54,440 –> 00:41:02,690
98 from my ex wife Michelle and she was
working with outlets on the precursor of

547
00:41:02,690 –> 00:41:06,80
mass planet the website called the
disneyland information guide and they

548
00:41:06,80 –> 00:41:11,450
had just decided that they wanted to
start doing publishing stories on a

549
00:41:11,450 –> 00:41:15,740
regular basis they didn’t know if they
would do you know two or three a week or

550
00:41:15,740 –> 00:41:20,899
five a week or get what they were going
to do but Michelle thought you know well

551
00:41:20,900 –> 00:41:26,869
Jim rights and he knows a lot about
disney let me call him she was like look

552
00:41:26,869 –> 00:41:32,900
can you do just one story we just need
one and as it turns out in masters book

553
00:41:32,900 –> 00:41:38,300
about michael eisner had just come out
the title of that book we had a great

554
00:41:38,300 –> 00:41:41,660
subtitle it was the rise of michael
eisner and the fall of everybody else

555
00:41:41,660 –> 00:41:45,500
and I’d read it and thought okay this is
fun and i just threw together a quick

556
00:41:45,500 –> 00:41:51,530
review of it and that got published i
have to admit that was my first taste of

557
00:41:51,530 –> 00:41:56,150
the immediacy the web by many handed it
off and i’m a guy who are right so you

558
00:41:56,150 –> 00:42:01,40
write something for a newspaper and
investigator an editor and this 24 hours

559
00:42:01,40 –> 00:42:04,130
before it comes in print or cod help if
you’re writing for a magazine where it

560
00:42:04,130 –> 00:42:06,920
can be 30 days 60 days 90 days

561
00:42:06,920 –> 00:42:11,930
however you see it and the web thing was
handed after L Alan an hour later it’s

562
00:42:11,930 –> 00:42:17,930
up on the web and it’s like well that’s
cool and that first little taste of

563
00:42:17,930 –> 00:42:24,259
heroin you know and then from there you
know just like why that was fun i want

564
00:42:24,260 –> 00:42:29,210
to do that again and that’s where i am
now I mean it just it’s kind of fun for

565
00:42:29,210 –> 00:42:32,869
example right now as we’re recording
this i stopped working on an article i’m

566
00:42:32,869 –> 00:42:37,280
doing about planes Fire and Rescue I’ve
got a piece that soon as we wrap up here

567
00:42:37,280 –> 00:42:41,690
i go over put it up on huffpo and that’s
bizarre

568
00:42:41,690 –> 00:42:46,460
I mean half was this big worldwide
organization you know just move you know

569
00:42:46,460 –> 00:42:52,250
new medium and for the longest time I
just treated it like you know magazine

570
00:42:52,250 –> 00:42:55,579
or newspaper it’s like okay I’m working
through the big boys so you know it

571
00:42:55,579 –> 00:42:58,819
contact matter and say hey I got an idea
for a story and i’m doing an interview

572
00:42:58,819 –> 00:43:01,220
next week and we would you like to do
this

573
00:43:01,220 –> 00:43:05,720
sure and so say 90 days that three
months after I started eventually

574
00:43:05,720 –> 00:43:09,859
matters that you know Jim you understand
about the whole blog idea right you know

575
00:43:09,859 –> 00:43:15,20
you got the job means you don’t have to
actually ask my permission to write

576
00:43:15,20 –> 00:43:18,680
about something we trust you would like
you know we wouldn’t have reached out if

577
00:43:18,680 –> 00:43:22,609
we didn’t like what you do but even then
there was still this sort of weird .

578
00:43:22,609 –> 00:43:26,900
where you submit it and maybe sometimes
maybe an hour sometimes would be six

579
00:43:26,900 –> 00:43:33,230
hours before things would be posted on
on HuffPost entertainment page and about

580
00:43:33,230 –> 00:43:38,960
three months ago this change and this is
just kind of shocking to me again I

581
00:43:38,960 –> 00:43:42,349
guess over time they decided we can
trust Jim he’s not going to do anything

582
00:43:42,349 –> 00:43:43,309
stupid

583
00:43:43,309 –> 00:43:50,780
so it’s like now it’s I submit something
the pole and it just completely bypasses

584
00:43:50,780 –> 00:43:55,760
editorial it just goes up and that’s not
to me i mean just the whole notion of

585
00:43:55,760 –> 00:43:59,990
how pole goes out to 32 32 million
people worldwide

586
00:44:01,380 –> 00:44:05,940
and it’s like you shouldn’t there be
somebody that kind of look at that and

587
00:44:05,940 –> 00:44:06,510
go

588
00:44:06,510 –> 00:44:11,250
he says walt disney’s alive and tap
dancing in toledo that that can’t be

589
00:44:11,250 –> 00:44:18,330
real kid can have been you know and it’s
so it’s like well he brought it put it

590
00:44:18,330 –> 00:44:24,60
up and it just it just goes its inner so
i don’t know i I just I both love this

591
00:44:24,60 –> 00:44:28,620
area that we work in for instant media
but at the same time it occasionally

592
00:44:28,620 –> 00:44:32,670
scares the crap out of me because they
just again that whole notion of click

593
00:44:32,670 –> 00:44:37,770
and send it goes to do all of these
people i mean at least when it’s jim

594
00:44:37,770 –> 00:44:41,340
hill media and I screw up you know which
sort of like okay my small group of

595
00:44:41,340 –> 00:44:45,930
writer or my readers I’m sorry I won’t
do that again you know where it’s tough

596
00:44:45,930 –> 00:44:50,580
though I mean that’s why i always try to
fact check out the wazoo because once it

597
00:44:50,580 –> 00:44:54,870
goes it goes was you know with great
power comes great responsibility and I

598
00:44:54,870 –> 00:44:59,520
mean that you’re living it but you know
just that there’s a line out of the

599
00:44:59,520 –> 00:45:03,180
rescuers are always bring this up when
people talk about this you know that

600
00:45:03,180 –> 00:45:07,440
there’s a moment out of the rescuers
that I love where it’s penny you know

601
00:45:07,440 –> 00:45:11,430
the boat you’ve seen her in tears that
now Here Come beyond Bernard and Bianca

602
00:45:11,430 –> 00:45:17,549
are going to rescuer and it’s like you
and she looks at them but she’s grateful

603
00:45:17,550 –> 00:45:21,240
that they’re there but she also says did
you bring any one big with you like the

604
00:45:21,240 –> 00:45:25,500
police you know it’s just that’s the
thing I just keep thinking with with her

605
00:45:25,500 –> 00:45:31,50
poets isn’t there somebody big here
isn’t there somebody who’s really should

606
00:45:31,50 –> 00:45:36,90
be in control like not go ahead put up
your story we trust

607
00:45:36,90 –> 00:45:42,510
so once you decide you want to be a
writer and you were about to embark on

608
00:45:42,510 –> 00:45:44,640
being an adult leaving high school

609
00:45:44,640 –> 00:45:49,230
what steps did you take I think the
thing of writing is there’s a line that

610
00:45:49,230 –> 00:45:52,860
Lawrence cast and the gentleman who
wrote raiders of the lost ark the big

611
00:45:52,860 –> 00:45:57,870
chill and oddly enough they brought him
back to work on episode 7 of showers for

612
00:45:57,870 –> 00:46:02,940
disney he said this really interesting
thing that stuck with me that a career

613
00:46:02,940 –> 00:46:06,570
in writing is like having homework for
the rest of your life

614
00:46:07,170 –> 00:46:12,270
alright so that’s the thing about you
know every so often all our council

615
00:46:12,270 –> 00:46:14,640
writers you know that people will reach
up to

616
00:46:14,640 –> 00:46:18,720
me within an idea or a book proposal or
something like that and the whole notion

617
00:46:18,720 –> 00:46:26,459
of I wrote it it’s done and it’s like
really did you didn’t read it yet i mean

618
00:46:26,460 –> 00:46:30,210
every time I read something that i wrote
i mean all the jumps out at me like how

619
00:46:30,210 –> 00:46:32,190
the errors oh you moron

620
00:46:32,190 –> 00:46:35,850
you know it’s like I could do so much
better and so you rewrite and rewrite

621
00:46:35,850 –> 00:46:40,20
and rewrite and even when you put things
out into the world look at the car oh i

622
00:46:40,20 –> 00:46:45,630
forgot that i should put that in there
so it’s always about you have to work at

623
00:46:45,630 –> 00:46:50,220
your craft you have to have to be
willing to do the research you have to

624
00:46:50,220 –> 00:46:53,40
put in the time I mean you know the
gentleman who wrote the tipping point

625
00:46:53,40 –> 00:46:56,640
talks about you know in order to get
good at what you do and I’m not saying

626
00:46:56,640 –> 00:47:01,680
I’m good at what I do I just got I got
lucky for some reason people like the

627
00:47:01,680 –> 00:47:06,180
crap that are right all right you know I
i have a way to tell the story that’s

628
00:47:06,180 –> 00:47:10,830
reasonably amusing but these gentlemen
the general who did the typically talks

629
00:47:10,830 –> 00:47:16,319
about the 10,000 hour rule that you have
to do something in order to get

630
00:47:16,320 –> 00:47:20,610
proficient or good or you know he always
makes the example of the beatles had the

631
00:47:20,610 –> 00:47:26,550
play in those horrible clubs and Germany
for 10,000 hours before they became the

632
00:47:26,550 –> 00:47:30,990
beatles before they became really
comfortable with one another and new one

633
00:47:30,990 –> 00:47:34,259
another’s riffs and knew how to do the
harmonies and you know that’s how they

634
00:47:34,260 –> 00:47:39,120
became the beatles neil simon who wrote
all those wonderful plays you know the

635
00:47:39,120 –> 00:47:45,390
odd couple the chapter 2 prisoner of
second Avenue he spent hundreds of hours

636
00:47:45,390 –> 00:47:50,850
working in a writing sketches fisted
Caesar and and chill silver and you know

637
00:47:50,850 –> 00:47:56,370
this PE have to practice your craft you
have to put in the time and you know the

638
00:47:56,370 –> 00:48:01,259
nice thing about the web is again when I
was coming up it again it was magazines

639
00:48:01,260 –> 00:48:04,830
and newspapers you had a hope and pray
that when you submitted something that

640
00:48:04,830 –> 00:48:08,279
you know somebody opens in manila
envelope reads it thinks you’re funny

641
00:48:08,280 –> 00:48:13,710
and we’ll publish your story it so there
was this whole pyramid structure where

642
00:48:13,710 –> 00:48:18,000
you had to have the early person who’s
reading the slush pile like what you did

643
00:48:18,000 –> 00:48:21,630
who headed to the editor above them who
then handed it to the editor in chief

644
00:48:21,630 –> 00:48:25,800
who signed off on the idea is that ok we
will deem to publish this

645
00:48:25,800 –> 00:48:28,890
send you know the idiot messages a check

646
00:48:29,400 –> 00:48:34,80
nowadays in the world of blogs the
pyramid structure is a pancake course

647
00:48:34,80 –> 00:48:36,120
the problem is getting people’s
attention because there’s a billion

648
00:48:36,120 –> 00:48:40,650
blogs out there but anybody can anybody
can right now and anybody can catch

649
00:48:40,650 –> 00:48:47,280
people’s attention it’s always amazing
to me to watch two breaks through but

650
00:48:47,280 –> 00:48:51,000
you know the weird thing is is that the
people who do in fact breakthrough

651
00:48:51,000 –> 00:48:58,80
typically have a unique view or can we
bring some fun interesting stuff to the

652
00:48:58,80 –> 00:49:03,870
table you know if I’m encouraging people
to enter this field it’s actually it’s a

653
00:49:03,870 –> 00:49:07,980
great time you know this no editors
barring the way the only thing that’s

654
00:49:07,980 –> 00:49:12,120
bothering the way is you you know you
have to be the one but again the other

655
00:49:12,120 –> 00:49:16,740
other thing you have to understand about
writing for the web are I think I

656
00:49:16,740 –> 00:49:20,970
mentioned this about the wizard of oz
story 15 years to write this story and

657
00:49:20,970 –> 00:49:24,959
people that was like that was really
good at that i really enjoyed that what

658
00:49:24,960 –> 00:49:26,400
else you got

659
00:49:26,400 –> 00:49:31,560
and you know the free next day I talked
about when I write for the web we can

660
00:49:31,560 –> 00:49:34,500
understand this is like you get up every
day and throw a brick in the Grand

661
00:49:34,500 –> 00:49:40,320
Canyon alright the web’s appetite for
new content is bottomless

662
00:49:40,320 –> 00:49:44,880
all right on ending so no matter how
well you do no matter what comedy

663
00:49:44,880 –> 00:49:48,960
podcasts recorded many stories are
written it’s like that’s good what else

664
00:49:48,960 –> 00:49:50,160
you got

665
00:49:50,160 –> 00:49:54,870
and you have to be able to to produce
you have to be self-disciplined enough

666
00:49:54,870 –> 00:49:58,470
to go yes i would love to sit and watch
all eight of the Harry Potter movies as

667
00:49:58,470 –> 00:50:02,700
they are showing on ABC family this
weekend but i gotta sit down and crank

668
00:50:02,700 –> 00:50:06,810
on a story so that’s what you do and you
have to make sacrifices

669
00:50:07,710 –> 00:50:13,920
just this week coming up I am so far in
the weeds in regard to stories that I am

670
00:50:13,920 –> 00:50:19,680
overdue on and stuff I gotta get done
next week in San Diego is the white

671
00:50:19,680 –> 00:50:24,359
tights under the white-hot center of the
pop-culture university to a comic-con

672
00:50:24,360 –> 00:50:28,440
for four and a half days all of these
amazing people come the ones place and

673
00:50:28,440 –> 00:50:34,440
do these amazing presentations and I you
know I was credential them all set the

674
00:50:34,440 –> 00:50:35,720
goal i gotta

675
00:50:35,720 –> 00:50:40,40
wonderful romantic bed and breakfast
that’s a mile away from the hall and i

676
00:50:40,40 –> 00:50:44,840
had to stare down the barrel and go i
can go i got to stay home and work so

677
00:50:44,840 –> 00:50:48,800
luckily I have a beautiful smart
daughter who can go in my place into a

678
00:50:48,800 –> 00:50:52,340
lot of interviews and I have a nice
understanding ex-wife who will also go

679
00:50:52,340 –> 00:50:56,90
and do some interviews and even her
husband now there’s some photography for

680
00:50:56,90 –> 00:50:59,599
the site I mean it’s weird when a sitcom
about to happen folks I understand that

681
00:50:59,599 –> 00:51:03,230
but still they help out sometimes you
have to do that you have to stare down

682
00:51:03,230 –> 00:51:07,520
the barrel of like i’ll be at a press
event who there’s still shrimp and

683
00:51:07,520 –> 00:51:11,480
they’re still serving alcohol and
there’s cake that’s like now I gotta go

684
00:51:11,480 –> 00:51:16,400
back to the room right gotta walk out of
the party and go work you can’t play and

685
00:51:16,400 –> 00:51:21,500
it’s weird because again you know just
like every so often I find myself i mean

686
00:51:21,500 –> 00:51:25,130
this this weird space where it’s like
come down you know universes come down

687
00:51:25,130 –> 00:51:30,230
for the opening of Diagon Alley you know
and I mean it was great in invite but it

688
00:51:30,230 –> 00:51:34,550
was just this whole notion of oh I gotta
go to Florida again and that means

689
00:51:34,550 –> 00:51:39,260
changing planes in Philadelphia and you
know i gotta pack gonna get your laundry

690
00:51:39,260 –> 00:51:44,60
and it just sort of like anybody else
I’m going to a deeper yeah and i’m like

691
00:51:44,60 –> 00:51:48,740
oh it’s i’m going to the proctologist
together and I better wear my good pants

692
00:51:48,740 –> 00:51:53,660
you know just again you you have to
sometimes remind yourself know you have

693
00:51:53,660 –> 00:51:58,220
a gig that p other people would kill for
you know it’s like come see our cartoon

694
00:51:58,220 –> 00:52:03,379
then come let us send you a box of swag
you know come down to our theme park and

695
00:52:03,380 –> 00:52:06,200
ride a new I mean again that was the
thing we got the right on green Goods

696
00:52:06,200 –> 00:52:11,210
you know during a time when they could
really keep the ride running and it’s a

697
00:52:11,210 –> 00:52:16,849
green ride and that’s why I actually
lived in orlando for four years in in

698
00:52:16,849 –> 00:52:20,930
the nineties that was actually Michelle
and I live there i want to say 93 to 97

699
00:52:20,930 –> 00:52:25,940
before we split and every so often
people will say well why don’t you in

700
00:52:25,940 –> 00:52:26,869
California

701
00:52:26,869 –> 00:52:31,460
why are you doing this in New Hampshire
and I honestly think that there are a

702
00:52:31,460 –> 00:52:34,369
lot of folks who are actually in the
orlando area who are covering disney

703
00:52:34,369 –> 00:52:38,390
know and I also i kind of feel sorry for
them because sometimes i go to the park

704
00:52:38,390 –> 00:52:42,980
with them and they will pick the
weirdest stuff to get a dar look they

705
00:52:42,980 –> 00:52:45,290
didn’t pay the bench to the right color

706
00:52:45,290 –> 00:52:48,440
you know oh my god the trash cans and
six inches too far away from the

707
00:52:48,440 –> 00:52:49,310
entrance

708
00:52:49,310 –> 00:52:52,279
it’s one of these things like you don’t
notice the hundred-million-dollar

709
00:52:52,280 –> 00:52:56,750
attraction run in front of you now I
know the flowers are in the wrong place

710
00:52:56,750 –> 00:53:00,500
it’s weird they live in the candy shop
now and because they live in the candy

711
00:53:00,500 –> 00:53:04,220
shop and they go to the candy shop every
day they’ve lost their taste for

712
00:53:04,220 –> 00:53:04,879
chocolate

713
00:53:04,880 –> 00:53:07,880
I mean for the rest of us going to
disney world are going to Disney that

714
00:53:07,880 –> 00:53:09,350
that’s a treat

715
00:53:09,350 –> 00:53:13,549
alright any given you walk in it was
gonna look at the right there’s a parade

716
00:53:13,550 –> 00:53:17,150
and fireworks and they’re the ones you
know it’s like well you know I got to go

717
00:53:17,150 –> 00:53:19,820
over and get pictures of the
construction wall because you know they

718
00:53:19,820 –> 00:53:24,740
put up a different wall you know just it
just hit they get obsessed about the

719
00:53:24,740 –> 00:53:28,879
wrong end of it and sometimes they
forget and that’s the thing i always try

720
00:53:28,880 –> 00:53:32,360
to whenever I find myself drifting in
the direction like oh god I gotta get on

721
00:53:32,360 –> 00:53:36,830
a plane and go to do something it’s like
you moron shut up there are hundreds of

722
00:53:36,830 –> 00:53:41,90
people that would say get rid of him i
will take his place i will do that and I

723
00:53:41,90 –> 00:53:46,460
will be excited you know and so you just
you you have to keep that in mind you

724
00:53:46,460 –> 00:53:50,840
can’t get jaded and that’s tough
sometimes because they’re you know now

725
00:53:50,840 –> 00:53:54,140
where we live in a world where it’s not
just disney doing great things and theme

726
00:53:54,140 –> 00:53:58,9
parks its universal and seaworld also
doing some some pretty impressive stuff

727
00:53:58,10 –> 00:54:02,840
and this lots of little parks and this
God you an animation is what this

728
00:54:02,840 –> 00:54:07,850
picture this DreamWorks is disney this
DisneyToon Studios is blue sky Warner’s

729
00:54:07,850 –> 00:54:12,500
just did this amazing lego movie and
they’re going to get even crazier in the

730
00:54:12,500 –> 00:54:17,810
animation and you gotta stay on top coat
and where that gets interesting of

731
00:54:17,810 –> 00:54:22,940
course all the people working students
now are former Disney or pixar and

732
00:54:22,940 –> 00:54:26,810
dreamworks employees so you know these
are people I’ve interviewed the past and

733
00:54:26,810 –> 00:54:31,790
they’re like he come talk about my movie
so it’s alright so I’ll try

734
00:54:31,790 –> 00:54:35,270
so what robots have you had along the
way I don’t like being the type of guy

735
00:54:35,270 –> 00:54:42,860
who bitches about stuff but I was tough
in 2001 when a let’s toss me off a

736
00:54:42,860 –> 00:54:47,720
bounce planet that was weird i was
actually talking with David caning who

737
00:54:47,720 –> 00:54:49,819
still writes from his planet and

738
00:54:49,819 –> 00:54:55,880
another writer who worked there and we
were lost planet had sort of peaked at

739
00:54:55,880 –> 00:55:00,589
that point they had really been riding
the construction of disney’s california

740
00:55:00,589 –> 00:55:05,719
adventure and the park it just opened
and yeah we knew the park had problems

741
00:55:05,719 –> 00:55:09,19
but it was just one of these things
where it’s like I was talking with David

742
00:55:09,19 –> 00:55:12,738
and it’s like again coming out of the
magazine newspaper world it’s like I

743
00:55:12,739 –> 00:55:18,289
don’t think this this website can be so
substan- momentum just writing about dca

744
00:55:18,289 –> 00:55:23,719
I thought that you know you would be a
smart time at that point the sort of

745
00:55:23,719 –> 00:55:27,739
diversified you know just have everybody
and again I just I wanted to do what we

746
00:55:27,739 –> 00:55:32,29
did out of the print world so everyone
would have an individual beat and so it

747
00:55:32,29 –> 00:55:35,509
was like you know David and I were
talking about what could we do well I

748
00:55:35,509 –> 00:55:38,539
could cover animation you can do theme
park so we could have a lot of gossip

749
00:55:38,539 –> 00:55:45,19
and we’re going to pitch this to Al and
Al for some reason found out thought it

750
00:55:45,19 –> 00:55:50,359
was threatening and inside of a
five-hour period threw me off of mouse

751
00:55:50,359 –> 00:55:51,288
planet

752
00:55:51,289 –> 00:55:56,89
delisted everything that ever written to
the site and you know and again he was

753
00:55:56,89 –> 00:55:59,509
weird because i had been their part of
growing this site and growing the

754
00:55:59,509 –> 00:56:04,430
audience into but it was his site and he
tossed me out and then from there I

755
00:56:04,430 –> 00:56:11,328
struggled God for a year and a half two
years trying to find a new nation i went

756
00:56:11,329 –> 00:56:15,170
and worked with the folks at laughing
place and Nubian Rebecca mostly are

757
00:56:15,170 –> 00:56:19,9
really really sweet people and they’re
good friends to this day but it just

758
00:56:19,9 –> 00:56:23,449
didn’t work i wrote a little sharper
than I think they were interested in

759
00:56:23,449 –> 00:56:27,289
they love the history and stuff that I
did they were always a little worried

760
00:56:27,289 –> 00:56:31,430
about possibly offending people i think
it’s mark twain that said you know the

761
00:56:31,430 –> 00:56:35,29
do you know if you’re not offending
somebody really not doing your job as a

762
00:56:35,29 –> 00:56:35,690
writer

763
00:56:35,690 –> 00:56:41,749
somebody’s got to be offended and then I
work Tony Ward on pc a central and

764
00:56:41,749 –> 00:56:45,890
that’s a sight that crashed and burned
so I was out in California visiting with

765
00:56:45,890 –> 00:56:50,808
my ex and my daughter and dca central
dinner was falling apart was out there

766
00:56:50,809 –> 00:56:54,829
and getting on a plane to go home and
it’s like oh god I gotta start again

767
00:56:54,829 –> 00:56:57,700
I gotta find a place to write on the web
but

768
00:56:57,700 –> 00:57:03,9
from the time it took me to fly home
from long beach to New Hampshire

769
00:57:03,10 –> 00:57:06,910
Michelle went out and bought the domain
name Jim Hill media and set it up and

770
00:57:06,910 –> 00:57:11,350
said aren’t yours running and for the
longest time I actually thought Jim Hill

771
00:57:11,350 –> 00:57:15,670
media was a stupid name for a website
again i come from this fairly large

772
00:57:15,670 –> 00:57:20,80
family there’s seven of us by parents
and three brothers and a sister and

773
00:57:20,80 –> 00:57:23,380
again when you come from a family of
that size it’s you’re not supposed to

774
00:57:23,380 –> 00:57:28,120
know it’s all about me it’s like no more
on there’s a lot of us here that you

775
00:57:28,120 –> 00:57:32,650
know just so it just seemed to me that
the name gym leader was incredibly

776
00:57:32,650 –> 00:57:37,210
egotistical but Michelle was you know
very persistent in factor catchphrase

777
00:57:37,210 –> 00:57:40,960
for the website was like finally a
website that one fire room and is it

778
00:57:40,960 –> 00:57:44,710
turns out it was actually a really smart
move one I personally never would have

779
00:57:44,710 –> 00:57:50,170
made but it was like weirdly branding
because my name was on the site and i

780
00:57:50,170 –> 00:57:55,360
wrote stories for the site so you’re Jim
Hill me and it took me a long time to be

781
00:57:55,360 –> 00:57:59,740
comfortable saying hi I’m Jim hello
general media it’s like I am from the

782
00:57:59,740 –> 00:58:02,919
department of redundancy department i
mean just seems like a really stupid

783
00:58:02,920 –> 00:58:09,850
name arm but over time the internet
finally became legit and it became

784
00:58:09,850 –> 00:58:16,240
easier to say hi I’m a blogger you know
as opposed to a writer so that was tough

785
00:58:16,240 –> 00:58:19,660
I mean when you’re part of something and
getting thrown out of it arbitrarily

786
00:58:19,660 –> 00:58:24,580
that stuff and not being able to fit but
yeah I mean I guess the lesson there was

787
00:58:24,580 –> 00:58:31,390
just how you have to persist and you
have to do what you do and hope that

788
00:58:31,390 –> 00:58:36,310
people like it and I got lucky you know
just about the same time I’m getting Jim

789
00:58:36,310 –> 00:58:41,650
Hill media of the ground i go to or from
mega mouse meet in florida and that’s

790
00:58:41,650 –> 00:58:46,90
where I me Glenn testo and Bob soldier
the editor in the publisher of the

791
00:58:46,90 –> 00:58:50,830
unofficial guide and they’re doing a
group photo of us all of us disney to

792
00:58:50,830 –> 00:58:56,650
eat in one place and so i’m at the back
of the thing with landon Bob and I’m

793
00:58:56,650 –> 00:59:01,30
basically doing what I’ve done my entire
life which you whisper things on your

794
00:59:01,30 –> 00:59:06,460
voice and you make people laugh around
you Bob and lend had never met a funny

795
00:59:06,460 –> 00:59:08,590
disney person up to the point

796
00:59:08,590 –> 00:59:12,730
you know I mean they’ve been very sweet
and very serious about disney and here

797
00:59:12,730 –> 00:59:17,440
was this fat man at the back of the pile
joking about disney and it’s a weed like

798
00:59:17,440 –> 00:59:21,760
you and that’s how I ended up first
writing the Disney douche items for the

799
00:59:21,760 –> 00:59:27,490
unofficial guide i think i’ve been done
for like ten years now and then the

800
00:59:27,490 –> 00:59:32,439
weird offshoot about two-and-a-half
three years ago Len decided you know

801
00:59:32,440 –> 00:59:37,120
this might be fun to do I have fun
talking to you i think other people

802
00:59:37,120 –> 00:59:40,720
would do would have fun listening to a
stock and that became the unofficial

803
00:59:40,720 –> 00:59:46,990
guide Disney douche podcast and that
took off in a really weird way I can

804
00:59:46,990 –> 00:59:51,9
reach it’s just a lot of them are just
landed i walking around the park and he

805
00:59:51,10 –> 00:59:54,850
turns into Michael’s ok fat man talk and
it’s just sort of like you know whatever

806
00:59:54,850 –> 00:59:58,000
attraction where in front of i have
stories about because I’ve been talking

807
00:59:58,000 –> 01:00:03,490
to engineer’s for 30 years so yeah I
mean yeah again I it’s weird maybe if

808
01:00:03,490 –> 01:00:07,359
I’d stayed at my house planet that gig
that door wouldn’t open so I guess you

809
01:00:07,360 –> 01:00:12,280
have to leave yourself open for
sometimes things that you want don’t

810
01:00:12,280 –> 01:00:14,200
happen but for the right reason

811
01:00:14,200 –> 01:00:19,89
yeah I would agree would you say that
downtime after mass planet you just keep

812
01:00:19,90 –> 01:00:20,50
writing

813
01:00:20,50 –> 01:00:26,290
regardless you had to that’s it just
comes down to the only way in a

814
01:00:26,290 –> 01:00:31,240
situation like that we’re going to
suddenly lose your forum you lose the

815
01:00:31,240 –> 01:00:34,390
place where people know you add it’s
just like an effect that was what was

816
01:00:34,390 –> 01:00:39,100
kind of funny was that people looked for
me they liked what I wrote know where

817
01:00:39,100 –> 01:00:42,819
the hell did he go now you know just in
fact when I went to a mouse pointed to

818
01:00:42,820 –> 01:00:47,20
two laughing place to dch central and it
to watch how the people who would

819
01:00:47,20 –> 01:00:51,460
comment on the stories would get I found
you again and the sort of like like to

820
01:00:51,460 –> 01:00:56,560
thank you google but yeah I just I just
have to persevere in a situation like

821
01:00:56,560 –> 01:01:00,910
that we get knocked down it’s just sort
of like the classic definition of

822
01:01:00,910 –> 01:01:04,180
success you could you know knocked down
two times you get up three

823
01:01:04,720 –> 01:01:09,339
it’s something like that you just ok
alright didn’t work out back to work

824
01:01:10,000 –> 01:01:14,170
so you could you share favorite memory
I’ve been very lucky i’ve gotten to do

825
01:01:14,170 –> 01:01:20,320
some really really really really cool
things you know and and they keep

826
01:01:20,320 –> 01:01:24,430
happening I just this within the past
month that’s and I were at the New

827
01:01:24,430 –> 01:01:30,669
Amsterdam Theatre and Michael cars are
in the the gentleman who orchestrates

828
01:01:30,670 –> 01:01:35,680
all of the music for dinner you see if
the Disney state your disney animated

829
01:01:35,680 –> 01:01:40,299
musical Michaels had a hand in all right
and i was interviewing him and he’s like

830
01:01:40,300 –> 01:01:45,40
oh well hang on let’s go downstairs and
he actually took us into the basement of

831
01:01:45,40 –> 01:01:48,250
the new amsterdam we were down the
orchestra pit

832
01:01:48,250 –> 01:01:53,890
what was really cool was that you know I
that’s neither Nathan I had ever been in

833
01:01:53,890 –> 01:01:58,150
this place or a big professional New
York Broadway theater it was one of

834
01:01:58,150 –> 01:02:02,110
these things where I turned to Nancy and
said we got to do it so she actually

835
01:02:02,110 –> 01:02:07,480
climbed up to where the conductor stood
and got to look out into the world and

836
01:02:07,480 –> 01:02:12,400
see the view that a conductor gets a
Broadway show and it’s like and she said

837
01:02:12,400 –> 01:02:14,710
we gotta do this like no that’s yours

838
01:02:14,710 –> 01:02:19,90
I think half the fun of this job is
getting to share and doing something

839
01:02:19,90 –> 01:02:20,260
like that

840
01:02:20,260 –> 01:02:24,280
Nancy who studied music a lot of her
life to to be in that center position

841
01:02:24,280 –> 01:02:26,620
was cool and special for her

842
01:02:26,620 –> 01:02:32,650
conversely i was just down at his knees
again i was down earlier this year for

843
01:02:32,650 –> 01:02:37,390
the opening of Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
and again Nancy because she wants me to

844
01:02:37,390 –> 01:02:42,700
be a less fat man has been going to
water aerobics three times a week and I

845
01:02:42,700 –> 01:02:46,810
keg and when you’re the guy in water up
ensure the back of the class you’re the

846
01:02:46,810 –> 01:02:50,230
one grounding the deep end because you
know what a frightened woman it turns

847
01:02:50,230 –> 01:02:53,530
out there was this high school kid who’s
next to me and his mother had brought

848
01:02:53,530 –> 01:02:58,120
him along his name was Joe he played in
that the nashua marching band any

849
01:02:58,120 –> 01:03:02,440
mention that he was going to be down at
disney it turns out the day he mentioned

850
01:03:02,440 –> 01:03:05,290
that his high school is going down and
marching to the magic kingdom was the

851
01:03:05,290 –> 01:03:08,950
day that they’re going to have the party
for the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train the

852
01:03:08,950 –> 01:03:12,250
press party and i was like wow well if
you’re down there let me see if I can

853
01:03:12,250 –> 01:03:17,950
get you on the attraction and as it
turns out we go into the party and it’s

854
01:03:17,950 –> 01:03:22,299
like Fort Knox the security is
ridiculous and meanwhile Joe is giving

855
01:03:22,300 –> 01:03:23,380
the colleagues in the park

856
01:03:23,380 –> 01:03:26,49
he’s with his family and it’s like jeez
I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to

857
01:03:26,49 –> 01:03:30,160
make this happen and I feel bad because
I promise this kid I would try to get

858
01:03:30,160 –> 01:03:31,839
him into this ride mean oil

859
01:03:31,839 –> 01:03:36,700
we’ve got we’ve gotten on it because of
the press thing four five six times at

860
01:03:36,700 –> 01:03:40,960
this bunch of great ride really enjoying
it but I still feel bad that I promise

861
01:03:40,960 –> 01:03:43,390
show that i would try to get them on
this and that doesn’t look like it’s

862
01:03:43,390 –> 01:03:47,618
gonna happen and so meanwhile we the
word sweet through the party that grumpy

863
01:03:47,619 –> 01:03:52,869
cat is there and Nancy who loves cats
just like suddenly the grumpy cat is

864
01:03:52,869 –> 01:03:56,619
here and so you know we were there with
Shelley Carroll the woman behind

865
01:03:56,619 –> 01:04:01,930
excellent website by the way we were
quick plug on the go in MCO but Nancy

866
01:04:01,930 –> 01:04:05,618
just basically should you go to the back
and show me you go to the front we’re

867
01:04:05,619 –> 01:04:09,130
gonna find this get and so everybody
takes off in a different direction so

868
01:04:09,130 –> 01:04:12,880
I’m walking to the back of the party and
they blocked off basically the perimeter

869
01:04:12,880 –> 01:04:17,559
seventh mind trains with these sort of
mobile hedge things that disney has but

870
01:04:17,559 –> 01:04:21,670
as i get to the back i noticed that that
you know the old mercantile shop from

871
01:04:21,670 –> 01:04:27,250
mickey’s toontown fair that that’s now
guess it’s called Big Top mercantile now

872
01:04:27,250 –> 01:04:32,619
because it’s in the number of circus
area but this is hole in the hedge and

873
01:04:32,619 –> 01:04:36,369
as a plant one of the people who gets
relations standing in the home and I

874
01:04:36,369 –> 01:04:38,79
walk up to her inside

875
01:04:38,79 –> 01:04:41,170
that’s where the restrooms are isn’t
she’s yes sir

876
01:04:41,170 –> 01:04:45,250
so it’s gonna go back to have absolutely
no like I found the hole in the

877
01:04:45,250 –> 01:04:49,690
perimeter you know so i got back i use
the restroom and I call joey said get

878
01:04:49,690 –> 01:04:53,799
your ass back here to big-time
mercantile and so five minutes later he

879
01:04:53,799 –> 01:04:58,450
and his mom and his dad and cousin show
up and go I’m sorry I can only get one

880
01:04:58,450 –> 01:05:04,180
person right think i can get one person
and I now turn to the plaid and I just

881
01:05:04,180 –> 01:05:07,930
explained the situation that show has
come all the way from New Hampshire and

882
01:05:07,930 –> 01:05:12,519
he marched in your Park today and he
entertained all these people and no

883
01:05:12,519 –> 01:05:16,569
can’t can’t we make an exception well
can’t we get this kid in here on general

884
01:05:16,569 –> 01:05:21,130
just and the plan I what I love about
her she stepped out of the door and she

885
01:05:21,130 –> 01:05:24,579
deliberately set of turns her back the
means like you know I never noticed that

886
01:05:24,579 –> 01:05:28,990
architectural detail over there before
and I grabbed Joey one through the

887
01:05:28,990 –> 01:05:34,118
entrance or the exit and I get them on
the ride and seriously the second the

888
01:05:34,119 –> 01:05:36,740
right is that we pull back into the
station this announcement

889
01:05:36,740 –> 01:05:40,729
party’s over so weak we got him at the
last possible but his Houdini screaming

890
01:05:40,730 –> 01:05:44,810
he’s having a great time for the point
he has bragging rights over the other

891
01:05:44,810 –> 01:05:49,520
250 members of his high school band
because he got on the ride and they did

892
01:05:49,520 –> 01:05:58,160
and that to me is in the last six or
eight months that’s a that’s one of my

893
01:05:58,160 –> 01:06:02,118
top disney related memories because it’s
like again i was able to do something

894
01:06:02,119 –> 01:06:07,70
nice then to somebody who you know who
lives outside the chocolate shop who

895
01:06:07,70 –> 01:06:08,600
loves chocolate

896
01:06:08,600 –> 01:06:12,830
you know and got this Ted extra special
taste of it ahead of everybody else you

897
01:06:12,830 –> 01:06:15,470
know I mean I’d been around a couple
times at night and I was beginning to

898
01:06:15,470 –> 01:06:19,250
think it’s a good right but riding with
Joe it’s like it’s a great right

899
01:06:19,250 –> 01:06:23,570
they really did a nice job and is this
civilian he confirmed that i guess that

900
01:06:23,570 –> 01:06:28,280
comes from being in a large family or
just the whole notion of your talk to

901
01:06:28,280 –> 01:06:33,680
share your toys and so you know for
example when the big hero 6 box showed

902
01:06:33,680 –> 01:06:37,910
up today was just sort of like okay so
getting my daughter is coming out to

903
01:06:37,910 –> 01:06:42,140
spend three weeks for this the summer
and she called today to check in and say

904
01:06:42,140 –> 01:06:46,520
ok the big hero 6 box showed up so you
know Nancy’s getting the t-shirt I get

905
01:06:46,520 –> 01:06:50,150
the action figure you get the Hat it’s
like cool i’m done you know

906
01:06:50,150 –> 01:06:54,140
so again share your toys I guess that’s
the lesson with all the great memories

907
01:06:54,140 –> 01:06:58,310
that you’ve shared so far today is there
have been any real disappointments with

908
01:06:58,310 –> 01:07:02,960
your dream along the way I’m I know
being kicked off of a mouse planet was

909
01:07:02,960 –> 01:07:04,340
but outside of that

910
01:07:04,340 –> 01:07:08,840
no I you know the weird thing is I think
I’ve never been one of these guys who

911
01:07:08,840 –> 01:07:15,320
nurses I can hold a grudge the same
American all my breath you know it’s

912
01:07:15,320 –> 01:07:19,520
just one of those things you can get bad
you can get angry and disappointed but

913
01:07:19,520 –> 01:07:22,880
it’s like if you dwell on it it’s like
how much time how much energy

914
01:07:23,510 –> 01:07:29,60
are you willing to put into preserving a
bad memory adjusted to keep it close to

915
01:07:29,60 –> 01:07:29,990
keep it tight

916
01:07:29,990 –> 01:07:35,390
they always talk about how what’s kind
about memory is over time the corners

917
01:07:35,390 –> 01:07:41,240
get shaved off the sharp edges fade away
I mean I think you know I mean have

918
01:07:41,240 –> 01:07:45,319
their disappointments have there been
hurts i’m the first divorce in my family

919
01:07:45,320 –> 01:07:48,450
I’m not particularly proud of that but I
worked hard

920
01:07:48,450 –> 01:07:53,399
it’s becoming my ex-boyfriend I worked
hard at becoming a good long distance

921
01:07:53,400 –> 01:07:57,60
daddy and and and that’s like I think
that one of the things I’m proudest of

922
01:07:57,60 –> 01:08:01,710
now is that I have this great
relationship with my daughter who’s out

923
01:08:01,710 –> 01:08:07,380
in California with my accent I’m in the
spot i wanted to be in you sometimes see

924
01:08:07,380 –> 01:08:12,599
kids of divorce who with their dads get
overly excited and you know there’s a

925
01:08:12,599 –> 01:08:17,9
lot of pressure to deliver to build
strong memories because they don’t see

926
01:08:17,9 –> 01:08:22,380
one another enough in my case with my
daughter it’s the exact opposite i am to

927
01:08:22,380 –> 01:08:28,319
be taken for granted dead i wanted so
badly to be the sort of the parental

928
01:08:28,319 –> 01:08:32,790
equivalent of like every other parent on
the planet i wanted to be the debt you

929
01:08:32,790 –> 01:08:37,769
know we talked every night on skype and
you know cellphone or whatever and it’s

930
01:08:37,770 –> 01:08:39,270
just her like dat ya dad

931
01:08:39,270 –> 01:08:45,390
all right in no big deal that Oh dad is
coming to town that is actually one of

932
01:08:45,390 –> 01:08:49,49
the sweeter parts of this gig that I do
get them to California’s offer them as i

933
01:08:49,49 –> 01:08:54,660
do and get to hang with Alice or get to
take your to how when she grows up she

934
01:08:54,660 –> 01:08:59,700
wants to be a sequential artist in fact
she’s at a long beach community college

935
01:08:59,700 –> 01:09:05,580
right now building your portfolio to
eventually go after a degree of CalArts

936
01:09:05,580 –> 01:09:11,460
though the interesting thing is she just
went and covered a panel for our website

937
01:09:11,460 –> 01:09:16,560
at the LA Film Festival and here’s Alex
Hirsch the gentleman who produce gravity

938
01:09:16,560 –> 01:09:20,130
falls for disney channel which is great
series of young do you really going to

939
01:09:20,130 –> 01:09:23,880
do but he was up there talking about how
he went to Cal arts and he said what was

940
01:09:23,880 –> 01:09:27,779
great about calories they made us make
them one movie a year but it’s also

941
01:09:27,779 –> 01:09:32,819
crazy-expensive and wouldn’t it make
more sense in the long run if you were

942
01:09:32,819 –> 01:09:37,380
filmmaker just to make your movies put
them up on on youtube or itunes or

943
01:09:37,380 –> 01:09:40,890
whatever get the world’s attention and
break through there whereas opposed to

944
01:09:40,890 –> 01:09:45,690
putting yourself and your family and
debt you know to go to to quell arts and

945
01:09:45,689 –> 01:09:50,939
it was just kind of bolts I didn’t know
whether the punch him or shake his hands

946
01:09:50,939 –> 01:09:54,839
when I heard that news because it’s like
I don’t know if that’s the lesson I want

947
01:09:54,840 –> 01:09:57,989
my daughter hearing but at the same time
I kind of like that my daughter heard

948
01:09:57,989 –> 01:10:04,320
that so i just i don’t believe it it’s
healthy to obsess on disappointed it’s

949
01:10:04,320 –> 01:10:08,910
good to learn the lessons if you did
something stupid go to remember that but

950
01:10:08,910 –> 01:10:13,410
at the same time not to obsess on
failure or success on mistakes or things

951
01:10:13,410 –> 01:10:18,000
that might have been it just sort of the
I think it’s more positive 22 just march

952
01:10:18,000 –> 01:10:22,440
forward to just learn from mistakes and
apply them to future projects and be

953
01:10:22,440 –> 01:10:23,190
done with it

954
01:10:23,190 –> 01:10:25,980
you know it’s funny that you mentioned
that about film I was just talking to my

955
01:10:25,980 –> 01:10:30,570
cousin who went to school for film
direction and I was like you know in

956
01:10:30,570 –> 01:10:33,269
this day and age if you can’t make
something entertaining for about a

957
01:10:33,270 –> 01:10:34,860
hundred bucks or less

958
01:10:34,860 –> 01:10:39,269
hmm you know I don’t it’s probably not a
good idea for you to seek out

959
01:10:39,270 –> 01:10:43,170
professional major debt education on
that

960
01:10:43,170 –> 01:10:47,310
oh no I totally agree and it just the in
any but you feel bad because that’s what

961
01:10:47,310 –> 01:10:51,120
we’ve been taught you know you want that
piece of sheepskin hanging on the wall

962
01:10:51,120 –> 01:10:54,780
to validate things were you know the
weird thing is at least when you work in

963
01:10:54,780 –> 01:10:59,550
film animation your degree and your
student film will get you your first job

964
01:10:59,550 –> 01:11:05,70
but only your first job it’s everything
you do after that . that makes your

965
01:11:05,70 –> 01:11:09,59
career and and yes you know for the
longest time for the last 10 or 15 years

966
01:11:09,60 –> 01:11:12,780
there are a lot of people that’s like
who you know everyone picks are with the

967
01:11:12,780 –> 01:11:17,429
colored so I want to go there but I just
I worry that this generation of kids who

968
01:11:17,430 –> 01:11:20,520
think that’s a straight pipe into Pixar
and it really isn’t

969
01:11:21,180 –> 01:11:25,950
you know what’s a straight pipe into
Pixar or Disney or DreamWorks or blue

970
01:11:25,950 –> 01:11:31,19
sky is a really good student film and a
demonstration of a really good work

971
01:11:31,20 –> 01:11:34,710
ethic and beyond that it’s all crap
shoot

972
01:11:34,710 –> 01:11:38,250
what would you say your dreams for the
future look like you know I’m really

973
01:11:38,250 –> 01:11:43,410
happy with where I am right now I mean I
just I live with a lovely young woman

974
01:11:43,410 –> 01:11:47,790
well shit since she’s my age when I talk
about i’m 55

975
01:11:47,790 –> 01:11:51,780
I’m sorry grade on a curve here folks I
plan on living to be a hundred and ten

976
01:11:51,780 –> 01:11:57,330
and we have two annoying cats i get to
do fun stuff i get the drive down to New

977
01:11:57,330 –> 01:12:00,600
York or LA or orlando

978
01:12:00,600 –> 01:12:06,540
i’m working on a book you know I get to
see my daughter go regularly my parents

979
01:12:06,540 –> 01:12:11,40
are in relatively good health in my
dreams for the future I’d like this to

980
01:12:11,40 –> 01:12:11,970
continue

981
01:12:11,970 –> 01:12:16,200
I’d like to meet more people who have
fun stories to share i’d like to help

982
01:12:16,200 –> 01:12:20,670
promote their films of their projects or
whatever I like to keep holding open

983
01:12:20,670 –> 01:12:25,170
doors for people who are getting their
career started offering advice i guess

984
01:12:25,170 –> 01:12:30,360
the funniest part about my job is that I
get the guy get the wake up but you know

985
01:12:30,360 –> 01:12:34,950
seven eight o’clock in the morning and I
can be professional ignorant you know

986
01:12:34,950 –> 01:12:36,30
this is my job

987
01:12:36,30 –> 01:12:39,30
someone will ask me something if you
heard about this is like no I haven’t

988
01:12:39,30 –> 01:12:43,19
but I can get on the phone or i can get
on the internet and I can research it

989
01:12:43,20 –> 01:12:46,980
and I can hold together info and i can
build a story and by the end of the day

990
01:12:46,980 –> 01:12:51,89
I’ve actually learned something and
hopefully i’m sharing something with my

991
01:12:51,90 –> 01:12:53,700
audience and then I get to do it again
tomorrow

992
01:12:53,700 –> 01:12:57,480
I mean just I think you know when i can
the sensing I all something new is

993
01:12:57,480 –> 01:13:01,530
always coming through the door for me
and I know there’s a lot of people you

994
01:13:01,530 –> 01:13:04,920
know again I come from a family of
teachers and and there’s a certain

995
01:13:04,920 –> 01:13:09,600
repetitive nature to that scan you
teaching you know the the teaching 1st

996
01:13:09,600 –> 01:13:13,320
graders will become second graders or
third graders and I have great respect

997
01:13:13,320 –> 01:13:17,670
for those folks who can keep it fresh
and can keep something that they’ve done

998
01:13:17,670 –> 01:13:22,380
over and over and over again and and
make it new and unique and wonderful

999
01:13:22,380 –> 01:13:26,700
that people come to the door but I have
the luxury of just real new comes

1000
01:13:26,700 –> 01:13:31,19
through the door every day just again
like the big hero 6 box so is there any

1001
01:13:31,20 –> 01:13:32,310
last thoughts you’d like to share

1002
01:13:32,310 –> 01:13:38,370
um again it’s it’s it’s kind of
flattering again when do the invitation

1003
01:13:38,370 –> 01:13:42,300
came to the door to come to the show
home but I egg at the very thing that

1004
01:13:42,300 –> 01:13:46,530
the very nature of getting the title of
the shower the dreams and I know why are

1005
01:13:46,530 –> 01:13:50,880
people have a lot of dreams that you
know that they want to come true that

1006
01:13:50,880 –> 01:13:57,420
they want for their lives in my own case
everything I ever achieved happened to

1007
01:13:57,420 –> 01:13:58,740
fit two reasons

1008
01:13:58,740 –> 01:14:03,570
alright either somebody was very very
kind to me and I’m not just talking

1009
01:14:03,570 –> 01:14:09,299
about disney legends i’m talking about
Nancy the one in my life when we met was

1010
01:14:09,300 –> 01:14:13,560
right after every divorce from michelle
i was a miserable work my kid with 6,000

1011
01:14:13,560 –> 01:14:15,60
miles away in Hawaii

1012
01:14:15,60 –> 01:14:21,720
I you know I i was i was a reclamation
project you know I would you know I she

1013
01:14:21,720 –> 01:14:26,190
looked at a swamp and so yeah I could do
something with that so you know that

1014
01:14:26,190 –> 01:14:31,259
that’s again every good thing that’s
happened in my life for the past 15 20

1015
01:14:31,260 –> 01:14:37,50
years flows from Nancy also flows from
my parents who again when i was at my

1016
01:14:37,50 –> 01:14:43,50
lowest my worse gave me away again it’s
the UH what is it the the Tom Thomas

1017
01:14:43,50 –> 01:14:47,40
Wolfe line and you know defective you
know homes where they have to take you

1018
01:14:47,40 –> 01:14:47,340
in

1019
01:14:47,340 –> 01:14:50,430
you know yet when I was divorced in my
life is crashing down around me that

1020
01:14:50,430 –> 01:14:57,120
they threw open the door again allow me
to come home so i try to remember that I

1021
01:14:57,120 –> 01:14:59,340
tried to remember that one

1022
01:14:59,340 –> 01:15:05,940
I needed people to be kind and generous
they were and I get stitches

1023
01:15:05,940 –> 01:15:10,860
sometimes in today’s world when we are
so cynical or were on deadline er you

1024
01:15:10,860 –> 01:15:15,900
know that’s something it’s easy so easy
to say no and what I would just suggest

1025
01:15:15,900 –> 01:15:20,730
is if you can just trying to remember
you where you are in your life where you

1026
01:15:20,730 –> 01:15:25,559
are in the cruise is somebody saw the
sweaty person on the other side of the

1027
01:15:25,560 –> 01:15:28,20
desk with the bad resume and took the
chance

1028
01:15:28,20 –> 01:15:34,380
ok so just try to remember that i just
it just seems in this internet age where

1029
01:15:34,380 –> 01:15:39,840
it’s facebooking or twittering and
trying to figure out 140 characters how

1030
01:15:39,840 –> 01:15:43,110
we can be mean to one another just be
nicer

1031
01:15:43,110 –> 01:15:49,710
ok so that’s it that there’s there’s be
business as profound as i get folks all

1032
01:15:49,710 –> 01:15:50,640
right

1033
01:15:50,640 –> 01:15:57,360
I think it’s a great message Jim you
watch the plug all your website’s oh god

1034
01:15:57,360 –> 01:16:00,660
okay we’re going on here

1035
01:16:00,660 –> 01:16:04,650
I’m okay we got Jim Hill medium we got
the huffington post where I’m supposed

1036
01:16:04,650 –> 01:16:11,549
to be writing two stories a week at
least I do my podcast with uh you know

1037
01:16:11,550 –> 01:16:16,650
our blend the unofficial guide disney
dish and we’re actually we’re doing our

1038
01:16:16,650 –> 01:16:23,910
first-ever live show actually in
flushing meadows in a couple weeks in

1039
01:16:23,910 –> 01:16:29,370
August sixteenth where we’re going out
there it’s myself lent esta and mike

1040
01:16:29,370 –> 01:16:33,59
newell is joining us for the show and
we’re doing sort of a tribute to the

1041
01:16:33,60 –> 01:16:36,930
50th anniversary of the new york world’s
fair but we’re actually recording it

1042
01:16:36,930 –> 01:16:41,250
with an audience and then putting that
up as a podcast and we’re kind of hoping

1043
01:16:41,250 –> 01:16:46,110
that if that works we can then use this
excuse to go to all these places that

1044
01:16:46,110 –> 01:16:49,49
I’ve always wanted to do shows from let
go to Virginia and do what about

1045
01:16:49,50 –> 01:16:54,780
disney’s America I got a long beach and
talk about court disney and you know so

1046
01:16:54,780 –> 01:16:58,650
we would be really great if this were a
success so if you people want to come

1047
01:16:58,650 –> 01:17:00,179
that’d be cool

1048
01:17:00,180 –> 01:17:04,560
and of course i’m i’m here with Joe on
his show and thank you for inviting me

1049
01:17:04,560 –> 01:17:09,30
this was really nice of you to let me
talk for way too long you are going to

1050
01:17:09,30 –> 01:17:14,730
edit this right like with a hacksaw and
chisel and get it down to three or four

1051
01:17:14,730 –> 01:17:21,179
hours is that the plan now you know
although there is some editing but it

1052
01:17:21,180 –> 01:17:24,180
will probably still be about an hour and
a half

1053
01:17:24,810 –> 01:17:29,880
I apologize to all your people okay
cannot just she you got things to write

1054
01:17:29,880 –> 01:17:33,960
laundry cooking you know just make the
bed i owe you all an hour-and-a-half For

1055
01:17:33,960 –> 01:17:37,950
Your Lives I’m really sorry know it the
pleasure was all mine i really

1056
01:17:37,950 –> 01:17:42,450
appreciate you taking the time to come
on and and even over the time to come on

1057
01:17:42,450 –> 01:17:47,99
the stories are great and the messages
were wonderful i think that a lot of

1058
01:17:47,100 –> 01:17:51,120
people are going to resonate with it and
i hope a lot of people check out your

1059
01:17:51,120 –> 01:17:56,370
website in your work and I you know I
would love to be on August sixteenth

1060
01:17:56,370 –> 01:17:59,370
unfortunately unfortunately but
unfortunately i’ll be on the west coast

1061
01:18:00,920 –> 01:18:04,910
well enjoy the whisk where you going
well because vegas and then to

1062
01:18:04,910 –> 01:18:11,239
California for LA and did my first time
at disneyland as well as my wife very

1063
01:18:11,239 –> 01:18:15,500
cool while well enjoy I mean just take
i’ll be intrigued to hear your thoughts

1064
01:18:16,400 –> 01:18:21,110
I’ve always help the disney world is a
little too big for disneyland it’s just

1065
01:18:21,110 –> 01:18:25,910
it’s the right scale it’s just something
about that it’s so charming that coupled

1066
01:18:25,910 –> 01:18:29,750
with vegas have you done Vegas before no
it’s my first time there to who carried

1067
01:18:29,750 –> 01:18:30,620
him

1068
01:18:30,620 –> 01:18:35,150
ok I think again will love to hear
stories from your experience there I’m

1069
01:18:35,150 –> 01:18:39,739
I’m you know I was just out there for
the licensing show and man that that

1070
01:18:39,739 –> 01:18:44,000
town it’s just you just I feel like they
just leave could just pick up your

1071
01:18:44,000 –> 01:18:47,660
ankles and shake you for well your money
follows a lot we leave you alone you

1072
01:18:47,660 –> 01:18:52,730
know just just raising them anyway thank
you again this was a treat to the show

1073
01:18:52,730 –> 01:18:58,669
and again please edit it I’m swear to
God get a hacksaw to try to get it down

1074
01:18:58,670 –> 01:19:00,860
to at least five hours

1075
01:19:00,860 –> 01:19:05,509
all right dentist ok no I will try my
best I promise

1076
01:19:05,510 –> 01:19:10,370
alright thank you can joke thank you
thank you thank you for joining us for

1077
01:19:10,370 –> 01:19:13,630
this episode of the dreamers podcast

1078
01:19:13,630 –> 01:19:19,480
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1079
01:19:19,480 –> 01:19:25,929
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1080
01:19:25,930 –> 01:19:32,650
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1081
01:19:32,650 –> 01:19:36,700
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