Paul D’Ariano: Educational zero to forensics hero
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Paul D’Ariano transformed his lack of educational attention into a master’s degree in forensics!
Find out how you can dig deeper into yourself and find something to be passionate about, as well as educated!
Episode 16
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this is the dreamers podcast where
dreamers shared their stories to inspire
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you
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now join host Joe Pardo as he interviews
a dreamer who’s living their dreams
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yeah
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yeah
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welcome to the juniors podcast I’m your
host Joe part of and today I’m
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interviewing called Ariana was living
history and for higher education
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welcome to the show call thanks Jeff
you’re welcome Paul it’s great to be
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here it is wonderful to be years and
indeed live and in the studio
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let’s start by giving a brief background
about yourself while 20 grew up in south
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jersey right outside of Philadelphia i
graduated with a bachelor’s from rowan
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university in 2009 and then received my
master’s degree from the Philadelphia
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College of Osteopathic Medicine in 2012
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what would you say inspires you to go
deeper into education
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honestly i like i like learning which
which is a complete contrast to how I
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was in high school where you could
barely get me to crack open a book it
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wasn’t until I got to college I actually
really enjoyed being there and I enjoyed
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learning the subjects i was learning and
it just keeps me going every day just to
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keep learning new things and as time
goes on new techniques developed so it’s
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just it’s never ending so how did your
dream about higher education come about
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well just seeing how my family works and
just seeing the Mach none of them really
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went to college my dad was a carpenter
my mom did she actually still in school
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she did like medical transcription which
is dr. typing like notes and stuff like
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that most my family’s blue-collar all
construction plumbers electricians me
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name it so I mean just the idea of just
having a better education having those
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types degrees to open up more doors to
two more job possibilities are really
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why I kind of went around i did well
with that said how would you say that
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you it was received by your family
members that you were going to pursue a
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higher education
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it was expected i was they really wanted
me to go to school I worked my dad is
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more like a warning or like a punishment
growing up as just you know this is what
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you could be doing for the rest your
life as opposed to being in air
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conditioning as opposed to just having
an easy you could be you know very
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stressed not saying that constructions
bad like i enjoy i enjoy doing and you
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have done that since I was a kid but it
really isn’t something that I want to
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wake up and do every single day i would
prefer to use
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the education that I’m getting and you
know just these different jobs that
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interest me know my undergrads in
psychology and I found that really
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fascinating but each step along the way
it’s kinda turned my interest towards
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something else so it started in
psychology but then i did a class on the
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skeleton and that got me into
anthropology and then from there that
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got me into forensics which is kind of
where I’m at now so you know just kind
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of a stepping stone along the way to get
me to the point where i’m at now
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so what steps did you take to get
started with a higher education i mean
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its unique I mean most people like in
high school they go to the guidance
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counselor’s arm you know though you know
discuss with their their GPA and stuff
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like that we’re gonna go like i said
like i really didn’t try all that much
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in high school so I honestly I mean we
go back we go back in time you know 10
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11 years and he asked me the same
question I pile and be like I’m not
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going to school like there’s no point
going to school so I didn’t do the whole
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you know I never took the SATs and
everybody acct which is which is unique
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in a sense my counselors and we
discussed it and we never really never
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pushed me to like apply to like a
Rutgers or a Penn State or salisbury or
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stockton like one of those are never
thought of Rowand i think i had some
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sort of like academic scholarship so
they’re like what you might as well just
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go to like a two-year school go to the
lobster county and I was like okay
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whatever
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no I applied senior year and got in like
a month was like our time here and then
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I spent my first semester sleeping
through it because I just I thought it
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was gonna be a joke like I didn’t think
I would last
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anything going to graduate like I
thought I’d be kicked out within the
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first semester made it with second
semester by the skin of my teeth was
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like i went here it was until one of my
professors got really mad because my
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father he the way he described it is
like my intelligence would shine through
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I’m not trying to say like I’m the
smartest human alive but you know i’m
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not the dumbest either and I’m he got
really mad because it’s like you know
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you actually you have potential yet you
just sit around and do a thing about it
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is like you would rather work you know
two three jobs making ten dollars an
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hour when you can actually no put that
head to good use and he’s like he was a
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humor me and quit and actually try
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yeah try to try to you know see what
happened see if you actually like and if
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you don’t like it then fine go back to
working as a carpenter
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Gordon video store or you know be a food
vendor and done everything so I I quit
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everything and for that semester i am
you know I tried and I put my GPA up
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from like a one academic suspension I
think I like a 1.94 like it was
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something abysmal like right right I
wasn’t ready to love we’re gonna kick
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you out and I managed to pull that up to
a a nearly a three-point out and about
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the time I graduated I graduated rolling
with a 3-2 and I mean that’s I mean all
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things considering with such a terrible
GP I mean that’s quite a leap and bound
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to get back up to that point but I mean
ever since then after that semester is
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gonna hit the ground running as like I
want to go one more I want to do more
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things like it’s a shame it took me all
that time to realize that that actually
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was good at that nice something I enjoy
doing up until that point but now I’ve
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seen a lot i got to experience a lot
through being in school you achieving
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those degrees going different places
having different interesting internships
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so I definitely don’t regret it i’m
actually I’m very happy and I’m very
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glad that that a an individual you know
showed me what I would have been missing
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out on and I just kind of coasted
through until the train stopped you
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touched on some of the jobs that you’ve
done
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I know you personally and I know that
there’s an endless list of jobs could
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you list some of them for us to you want
me to talk about the ones before college
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or after college or what you’ve had so
many I mean justjust go through my list
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of opportunities you can i I’m sure pile
of here
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I’ve been man I off carpenter found some
like electrical work plumbing work not
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very good at it worked on a ranch work
in a flower shop
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I was an ice-cream scooper was cook
server work in a movie store video game
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store sold televisions was an auto
mechanic i worked at an oil refinery
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doing construction work for them i work
as a tutor a paraprofessional it’s like
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a teacher but not really a teacher it’s
like a teacher’s aide but they don’t
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that’s not PC enough these days anymore
I guess what else or else have I worked
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I mean that’s kind of stuff I did before
I school though I was am I was a vendor
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for keyboard Kellogg’s did that for a
summer
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weird i got a lot of free food out of it
though and then during college I I work
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in a bookstore had my own one of my
internships i worked with the
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Philadelphia medical examiner’s office
doing investigative work for them and
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then my most recent job I was doing
government contract work in the forensic
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sector doing latent fingerprint work for
them so it’s probably a few more than I
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don’t remember I shouldn’t leave high
school graduate make a bit while I’m
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going to be the best fry cook at
mcdonalds they’ve ever had and that’s
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where it ends
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it’s like there’s always something more
is always something better so I never I
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never wanted to get comfortable in those
jobs so I always I mean learning now
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like that’s not the best thing in the
world to do it doesn’t look very good
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but I’m I never wanted to get
comfortable in a sense that i would be
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there for 34 years so every every so
many months I’d be like okay it’s time
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to go
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usually at last about a year some jobs i
hold in tandem with other jobs that’s
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all part time work once I got to the
year . with those types of things I
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never really wanted to move on because i
had come back to some jobs I I used to
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have and some places and i still see
some of the same faces some people still
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working there and i’m not saying like
you know that’s that’s a terrible thing
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like you know to each his own and you
know if that’s you know you’re making me
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you can make good money in some of those
jobs you know that’s perfectly fine but
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that’s not where I want to end up so I
never wanted to get to that point we’re
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choosing to move forward wouldn’t be you
know a thought like I don’t want to get
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too comfortable to wear
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I would get lazy and not want to keep
pursuing to keep trying
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that’s an awful lot of jobs that yeah so
we’re there any roblox going through you
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mentioned that you you had a really low
GPA you don’t really care when you first
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got out a while before you got out of
school and then after you got out of
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high school and into college
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was there any roblox a during that
process whether it was for transferring
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from another school what would you say
some of your biggest roadblocks are that
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maybe would help somebody else going
through the same problem
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you mean like if you’re in the same in
the same boat being on academics and
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suspension is not obviously I mean for
me for many reasons it’s not a very good
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thing but as far as moving forward while
an academic suspension that kind of
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stops so institution or a school that
should have taken me two years to
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complete took me slightly longer because
i had to go back and I to fix the
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classes that I
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messed up we take a lot of stuff
actually pay attention actually do well
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some of those subjects i mean even are
my strongest to begin with so I it was
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always a struggle to just kind of
complete those classes and actually pay
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attention enough to want to complete
them to move on to the things that was
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really interested in once I got through
that I mean it’s mean financial aid
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stuff it’s I mean my biggest thing is is
you know making sure that you actually
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get a degree in you know an area mention
one to work in my undergrads in
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psychology
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I really psychology will interest me
isn’t something that I want to pursue
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you know I realize that senior year of
college I mean my biggest devices if
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somebody is taking a business class you
know maybe take an internship in the
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sector that you want to be in you want
to trade maybe see if you can find a way
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to like work with somebody who didn’t
like who does like stocks or something
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like that if you if you go to school for
education maybe see if you can shadow a
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teacher for a day as early on as you can
at Rowan they had us do our internships
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senior year last semester only two
classes left and i went to my internship
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and i sat down i left one day I came the
realization that I don’t want to be a
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therapist I don’t want to do it and I
get just like it hypnotizes panics i’m
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like i just spent three and a half years
in school for a degree that i really
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don’t intend on using but with that
being said I mean it’s i use it more as
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a gateway now to get to other education
get to to get to other areas i meant i’m
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interested in as opposed to going back
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I mean you can go back for a second
bachelors but i was able to get into the
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masters program for forensics that I
really liked because i had a bachelor’s
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already and then through some other
testing that they had to do because it
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wasn’t assigned space background I was
still able to get into that program
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still able to excel very well I’m and I
did enjoy the job that came out with it
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but with any contract work once the
contract on the job is done so it’s you
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know waiting for the next job so I’m now
on a position where I don’t want to wait
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for that I’m gonna go back again and
actually choose a career path that I
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really enjoyed while i was in pecan
really enjoyed liked the medical field I
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enjoyed those aspect of my classes and
when I’m complete that within the next
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11 months I’ll be working in
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a doctor’s office Hospital in a in a
capacity whether it be physicians
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assistant or nursing as far as roblox
got mean there are a few i really didn’t
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have that many once I got out of
Gloucester County and once I moved on i
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mean i just kind of hit the ground
running once I figured out that is what
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i wanted to do and then it just kinda
everything fell into place and even
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though like I said the only the panic
feeling like I just maybe i just wasted
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so much time I really didn’t just I took
it and then once i had another professor
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Stearman direction that more interest
may as well I can take what i already
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have and I can use it moving forward and
have to go backwards and fix
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quote-unquote mistakes i can just take
one already had to move forward move
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into am an area that really enjoys me or
I’m interested in transmission so is
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there any part of your dream that
haven’t quite worked out contract work i
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really enjoyed fingerprinting string
that it was a limited time
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even I knew that going into it that it
wasn’t gonna last forever so when that
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when the day finally came that you know
my my time there was done it was a
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little bittersweet because I just wish
it was more stable work economy i guess
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other than that no I don’t regret
anything I really enjoyed the the path
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I’ve taken it’s been a fun adventure a
lot of fun stories have come out of it
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and I mean just experiences that I would
have gotten you know just following in
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line and just you know picking up a
hammer and going straight to work if you
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were stranded on a desert island with
your family what are three things that
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you couldn’t live without like reading
sigh i would I think carding my library
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around would be awful so I’d have to say
my kindle can last forever i probably
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probably bring my kindle probably a deck
of cards really boring if the island if
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the island had the ability to grow
coffee beans they had like trees i would
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probably bring coffee pot if you could
have just said endless coffee mug or a
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bottomless coffee mugs and kickback this
is the same thing so I’m gonna be a
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little bit more
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well be a little more fun actually to
you know chop the no beans down and
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somehow that somehow managed to roast
them and then managed to grind them and
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then bring them so I mean like I don’t
know we can go to coffee pots a lot less
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mechanics involved so what would you say
your dreams for the future like I guess
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my dream for the future
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just to go back to school and just to
arm finish out pickup field that’s going
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to be a little more stable as far as
work goes and one more i can finally
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start to you know settle down and
actually try to make a career out of it
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as opposed to jumping from place to
place from job to job I mean any in my
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forensics feeling I mean that’s kinda
what the future would have held for me
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it wasn’t one that I really wanted
wouldn’t would have enjoyed you know 10
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15 years down the road jumping from lab
to lab unity and office to office every
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25 years it just it just isn’t
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it’s moving isn’t something that I
wanted to do constantly and that just
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seemed like that was going to be if i
wanted to keep pursuing that was gonna
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keep happening so pick a field that is
gonna be a little more stable and one of
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them very interested in and you know go
from there
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hopefully that’ll be you know that’ll be
it so do you have any last thoughts to
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share with the audience but i would but
i would recommend if I could go back I
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would probably suggest this for anybody
instead of going straight into Colorado
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I school like if you’re having
difficulty choosing a path that I’m sure
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you know what you want to be I guess
when you grow up I wouldn’t jump into it
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right away
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probably the first thing I would tell
myself as I would probably experienced
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first and find something that I’m
actually truly interested in and then
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pursue that head-on as opposed to
figuring out over the course of four
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years what interests me and then hoping
that I figured that out before it’s too
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late or before you know that time is
done because you never want to try to
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redo it whenever I mean if you never
really want to go beyond a bachelor’s or
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go back for a second or move on to a
master’s that you never want to get to
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the end and be like this isn’t what I
had in mind and then you’re there for
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two years or two years more or you know
you’re stuck doing something that you’re
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gonna hate for the rest of your life
like I’d rather I’d rather take a year
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or two and actually be like this is my
patch and this is what i want to do I
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have a friend who’s now all 30 he just
got his bachelor’s and forensics because
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he took his twenties off to figure out
what he wanted out of life and you
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realize that this was something that a
true passion for you went back to school
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you know what this is like 20 so i would
recommend that is if I wouldn’t jump
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into it blindly i would i would go with
a clear plan if you don’t have a clear
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plan
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take time to figure that out but we
tried thank you so much for being on the
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show up I really appreciate it thanks
Jim
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